Just wish there were more transparency around counts and content engagement.

I firmly believe most influencer these day were propped up with payed views and botted engagement. Not that lemmy is the same but it all feels so dirty.

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    I prefer votes being semi-anonymous. The vote counts are technically public, you just have to use software that displays them, but that added barrier is enough for most people to never check and that is how I prefer it. I feel like seeing voter names just encourages getting into pissing contests about “why did you downvote me” which I don’t want to happen because: A, votes don’t matter and B, if someone downvoted without commenting they probably don’t want to spend half an hour arguing in comments.

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      2 months ago

      if someone downvoted without commenting they probably don’t want to spend half an hour arguing in comments.

      Bingo.

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        This is precisely my reason for why they should be public.

        In my view downvotes should be used sparingly, only to suppress spam and trolling comments that don’t add to the conversation.

        By keeping votes private people just downvote anything they disagree with

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          2 months ago

          So what are you going to do with the knowledge that I downvoted your comment?

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            You have no reason to so I presume you haven’t.

            If we were actually in a discussion and you started downvoting all my comments I’d see it as a sign of pettiness and disengage.

            I’d probably also tag you as a reminder to myself not to engage with you again.

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              You have no reason to so I presume you haven’t.

              I’m telling you I downvoted your comment.

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                  2 months ago

                  I guess. I don’t get it. If I refused to talk to anyone if they ever downvoted me, I would run out of people to talk pretty quickly.

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                    To me, a downvote means “what you wrote contributes nothing to the discussion, and should be less visible”. If someone downvotes me, I take it as a sign that no further discussion in that direction is meaningful.

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          Back when I first started using Reddit well over a decade ago, voting was explained as “upvote things you want to see more of and downvote the things you want to see less of”. That’s how I still treat it for the most part. I downvote loads of things not because they’re inherently bad or I disagree with the content but purely because it’s not what I want to see.

          It’s fake internet points, the amount you have doesn’t matter in the slightest. There’s no reason not to downvote what you disagree with.

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            This is how you end up with echo chambers.

            It’s fake internet points, the amount you have doesn’t matter in the slightest. There’s no reason not to downvote what you disagree with.

            The amount on each individual comment does matter, as it affects how the algorithms order comments when showing them to other people.

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              You end up with echo chambers by blocking people and communities you don’t like.

              Downvoted content is not only still visible, half the sorting options ignore it.