Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 4 days agoChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlexternal-linkmessage-square148fedilinkarrow-up1845arrow-down12
arrow-up1843arrow-down1external-linkChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 4 days agomessage-square148fedilink
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down1·4 days agoPlease let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
minus-squareSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOPMlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up17·edit-24 days agoWe need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·4 days agoAndroid is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did. And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
minus-square0x0@programming.devlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·1 day ago Android is open source You sweet summer child…
minus-squareangrystego@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·3 days agoLocal alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 days agoWe also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy. But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
minus-squareObi@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·4 days agoIsn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·4 days agoNope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
minus-squareRenohren@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up3·edit-23 days agoThat was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
minus-squareThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·3 days agoWe have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
Please let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
We need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
Android is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did.
And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
You sweet summer child…
Local alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
We also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy.
But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
Isn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
Nope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
That was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
We have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
I’d love to see it.