• BetaBlake@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Even without interference communism can never work, it’s not how human nature works, it relys on everyone being on the same page which will never happen

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 days ago

      do you realize that you are contradicting your statement? You talk of “human nature” as a law of nature, something that cannot be changed and has to conform every single time, but then you mention that people are just different lmao.

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        People who talk of “human nature” are white supremacists. The idea is that groups and people with different cultures are not human is what underpins this whole concept

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      it’s not how human nature works

      where is human nature defined?

      this is a thought-terminating cliche, not an my argument to be taken seriously

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      3 days ago

      It’s in our genetics to engage in a perpetual exponential quarterly growth and make our decisions based on the benefit it brings to our investors. Any caveman could tell you that smh…

      E: my god it’s a hyperbolically absurd take in memes and even with the caveman comment I still need to /s apparently…

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        If you ran humanity in thousands of simulations how often would we end up in the same capitalistic situation?

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          Very frequently, but it is exactly just as likely it would have moved on to Socialism and eventually Communism, or retained feudalism, it all depends on when in development.

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              Fantastic question! The answer is no, not necessarily. The PRC is Socialist, and never had a true “Capitalist” phase. It currently has a Socialist Market Economy, but never really had a stage dominated entirely by Capitalism.

              There are also reversions. Russia reverted to Capitalism, and Germany almost became Communist, but was stopped by the Nazi Party coming to power.

              However, all of that being said, history does generally progress alongside technological development, and the Mode of Production follows suit.

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      3 days ago

      Kind of some level of any system isn’t it? In short if a system has a means to power that can tweak the rules. Inevitably will result in one group ceasing the rules, turning them to raise how much they can tweak them, and ensuring they continue to be tweaked in their favor.

      Communism relies on a possibly impossible starting point. Theoretically if the starting point were reached, it seems the most sustainable. Whether it’s possible to reach that starting point is the great mystery.

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        What “possibly impossible starting point” does Communism rely on? This reads like someone that hasn’t actually attempted to engage with what Communists believe, to be honest.