• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    This isn’t true, unless you have a different conception of what “class” is from Marx and Marxists. The State is the only path to a stateless society, in that the state disappears once all property is publicly owned and planned, and thus the “state” whithers away, leaving government behind.

    For Marx, the State is chiefly the instruments of government that reinforce class society, like Private Property Rights, not the entire government.

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      55 minutes ago

      So the bolshevik state bureaucracy wasn’t a new ruling class giving themselves privileges others didn’t have?

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        49 minutes ago

        In the Marxist notion of “class,” no, they did not form a class. The State is an extension of the class in power, not a class in and of itself. In the Soviet Union, that class was the Proletariat.

        Party members and Soviet officials did have privledges like higher pay, but in the Soviet Union this difference was only about 10 times between the richest and the poorest, unlike the 100s to 1000s or more in Tsarist Russia or the modern Russian Federation.