And the US doesn’t torture prisoners. And Russia didn’t invade Ukraine. And nothing happened in China on 4th June 1989…
The rules are completely unenforced, and also generally don’t apply for actions against people on other instances. Take a look at slop as the biggest example where they link to other instances and swathes of Hexbear users go brigade that post without even taking the time to factcheck, and look around at their other communities and you’ll find plenty of similar ones.
there is no proof of “swaths of hexbear users” going to brigrade the post go ahead and make a kbin/piefed account and compare upvotes and accounts if you need to
try posting “ukraine has nazis” in !ukraine@sopuli.xyz or “the xinjian reducation camps have been closed for years” in !world@lemmy.world and see what happens
It’s only whataboutism if you avoid answering. I gave examples of other times where self-imposed rules were blatantly broken while those who broke the rules claimed no wrongdoing.
You’re actually the one using whataboutisms as you’re calling out similar communities as problematic without actually addressing the near-identical issues with Hexbear (additionally many of those communities have rules against direct links, unlike those on Hexbear).
Additionally, the reason there’s no proof Hexbear users are behind brigading is because they’re defederated at the moment - Hexbear users can’t vote on other instances, hence me saying it’ll be an issue when they re-enable federation. Going back a few months, I have seen a large number of posts with sensible debate being downvoted and a disproportionate number of comments from Hexbear users, checked “The Dunk Tank” (slop’s predecessor) and sure enough there’s a post linking directly to it.
you are trying to change the framing with “what about” irrelevant topics, and i already answered you, ill say it more clear
lemmy instances enforce their code of conduct you did not provide any examples other than ones that came to you in a dream of how hexbear’s code of conduct were blatently broken
where is your answer about why one community is ok but another is a toxic, brigading one? every one of those communities has screenshots and other identifying information that can easily be used to find the originating comment, post or user.
You dont need current federation as hexbear was “premtively defederated” by lemmy.world so how could they brigade here anyway? you are grasping at straws and still have no proof to your claims
a shame you continue lying hexbear doesn’t have downvotes enabled
how can you say commenting on a post is brigading if you have no correlation of the usernames in those posts once again you have made a dishonest claim with no evidence
And the US doesn’t torture prisoners. And Russia didn’t invade Ukraine. And nothing happened in China on 4th June 1989…
The rules are completely unenforced, and also generally don’t apply for actions against people on other instances. Take a look at slop as the biggest example where they link to other instances and swathes of Hexbear users go brigade that post without even taking the time to factcheck, and look around at their other communities and you’ll find plenty of similar ones.
you are using whataboutism please stop commenting in bad faith to defend your dishonest nature
how is slop any different from !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works or !fediverselore@lemmy.ca or !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ? they all include links or pictures of users the poster deems bad
there is no proof of “swaths of hexbear users” going to brigrade the post go ahead and make a kbin/piefed account and compare upvotes and accounts if you need to
try posting “ukraine has nazis” in !ukraine@sopuli.xyz or “the xinjian reducation camps have been closed for years” in !world@lemmy.world and see what happens
the !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone community just bans you for even having an alt on hexbear
how is what hexbear doing any different from other every other instance?
It’s only whataboutism if you avoid answering. I gave examples of other times where self-imposed rules were blatantly broken while those who broke the rules claimed no wrongdoing.
You’re actually the one using whataboutisms as you’re calling out similar communities as problematic without actually addressing the near-identical issues with Hexbear (additionally many of those communities have rules against direct links, unlike those on Hexbear).
Additionally, the reason there’s no proof Hexbear users are behind brigading is because they’re defederated at the moment - Hexbear users can’t vote on other instances, hence me saying it’ll be an issue when they re-enable federation. Going back a few months, I have seen a large number of posts with sensible debate being downvoted and a disproportionate number of comments from Hexbear users, checked “The Dunk Tank” (slop’s predecessor) and sure enough there’s a post linking directly to it.
you are trying to change the framing with “what about” irrelevant topics, and i already answered you, ill say it more clear
lemmy instances enforce their code of conduct you did not provide any examples other than ones that came to you in a dream of how hexbear’s code of conduct were blatently broken
where is your answer about why one community is ok but another is a toxic, brigading one? every one of those communities has screenshots and other identifying information that can easily be used to find the originating comment, post or user.
You dont need current federation as hexbear was “premtively defederated” by lemmy.world so how could they brigade here anyway? you are grasping at straws and still have no proof to your claims
a shame you continue lying hexbear doesn’t have downvotes enabled
how can you say commenting on a post is brigading if you have no correlation of the usernames in those posts once again you have made a dishonest claim with no evidence