• Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    AI art is fine being used as a tool. What I have a problem with is it’s users calling themselves “artists”.

    A person who types a prompt into an AI is no different than a person who hires a painter and describes what he wants them to paint.

    Just because that “painter” in the first case happens to be a computer, that doesn’t mean that by default the title of “artist” defaults back to the person who wrote the prompt. That person is still just someone telling someone (or something) what to draw.

    In other words, you don’t become the artist just because you eschew paying an actual artist and instead have your computer do it for you.

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      4 days ago

      I see this view a lot and I agree with it, but how can you argue with anyone who says well, that’s what they said about synthesizers for music. Or ipads for art. Or computers replacing typewriters. Are you saying anyone who doesn’t hand write a book in cursive while solely learning the djembe from a scroll is not a real artist ? (Obvious /s but it’s kind of valid). Unfortunately we are the old man yelling at cloud, just 20 years too early. The future will laugh that there were AI detractors (in my opinion).

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        4 days ago

        Everything you’ve mentioned are tools for an artist to use to express THEIR talent. A typewriter doesn’t come up with the words. a Synthesiser doesn’t compose the the music that its playing. Comparinging AI (which requires zero talent) is disingenuous.

        To put it another way, if you’re a carpenter using hammers and saws (tools), and then some engineer creates a robot that can be programmed to do that job and allows them to fire all the carpenters. Does that make the programmers carpenters even though not a single one has used a circular saw.

        The line between “tool” and “crutch” is drawn by how much talent and training it takes to use it.

        AI is NOT used as a tool in that traditional sense, its a shortcut to fake talent in ways that hammers, paintbrushes, typewriters and even just good old fashioned traditional Photoshop aren’t…

        You have to have the training and talent to get use out of a real tool. And AI certainly potential for use in that regard; proofreading, background removal, grammar checking etc…

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        4 days ago

        Your comment made me think of DJs. Not “real” musicians? Seems like a similarly-structuree argument.

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          4 days ago

          DJs use the tools to express THEIR talent. They don’t just say “create a composition that sounds good”. That’s the difference between an artist and a fraud.