• SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Wtf. Hard to believe this is real… Do only certain far right private schools do nationalistic stuff like that or is it a common phenomenon over there, like are public funded schools allowed to do bs like this as well?

      EDIT: WWWWTTTTTFFFF

      " All states except Nebraska, Hawaii, Vermont, and Wyoming require a regularly scheduled recitation of the pledge in public schools.[13] Many states give a variety of exemptions from reciting the pledge, such as California which requires a “patriotic exercise” every day, which would be satisfied by the Pledge, "

      To be honest its a miracle you guys didn’t turn facist earlier with stuff like that.

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        The Nazi party of America - the GOP - has spent so much time and money creating fascist propaganda for decades. The country largely ignored it, because it didn’t really “do” anything and most people were like “ok. It’s a bit strange, but whatever.”

        The military is to be praised. The boy scouts of America have promoted flag ceremony, and allegiance to state. Sports are practically religious events, so your team is part of where you live. The more you buy, the more you help America. America’s international superiority is paramount to our health. It’s been ready for a long time. It just needed ignition.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised if my town was the exception and not the norm (I’m from a relatively progressive town in a consistently blue state) but at my public high school I only knew of 1-2 people out of the 500 people in my grade that stood up during the pledge of allegiance and a good percentage of the grade hated them because they were high key homophobic.

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        No it’s basically universal

        Texas also has its own that kids have to do after the US one, every day.

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        You don’t have to do it. I stopped doing the pledge around 6th grade. 9-11 made me read into our history a bit more, and pledging allegiance to a flag that is supposed to represent “of the people, by the people, for the people” seems a backwards. Then you realize that it’s straight up McCarthy-era bullshit. It’s more patriotic to not say the pledge.

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            I was lucky enough that my parents had engaged with the school system overriding my (and my siblings) civil rights in the past. A little bit of push-back from them quashed a lot of school bullshit. As long as I wasn’t endangering myself or my class, and not disrupting the education of other students, I had carte blanche to do what I wanted.

            When the whole “trapper keepers only” thing went down around 8th grade, I kept using my backpack, since I walked a little over a mile home from school every day, and the trapper was dead-weight.

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        Yup, when I heard about it it was really weird. And when I said I won’t let my children do that, I learn they’d be ostracized not only by peers but by teachers as well. And considering there’ll bullying in schools and teachers don’t do much. It doesn’t seem like a good place to send your children. (And there’s shooting)

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        All states except Nebraska, Hawaii, Vermont, and Wyoming require a regularly scheduled recitation of the pledge in public schools

        Madness.

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        I would say I went to a fairly typical public high school and most people didn’t say the pledge or stand, although it was definitely read over the loudspeaker during the morning announcements

      • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        In my state, which is extremely conservative, it is illegal to force a student to participate in the pledge. Most teachers are ignorant of this though so you have to bring it up when they try to make you do it. I haven’t been in high school for well over 20 years though.