• stopdropandprole@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    John McCain and Hillary Clinton (yes, her) are more responsible for the bill that hand delivered gave us Citizens United to the supreme court than anyone in the DNC (which doesn’t draft legislation, they mostly justtake bribes fundraise for pro-corporate/pro-Israel lobbies and suppress progressives and independents.)

    they’re responsible for crafting immensely unpopular platform after platform, such as killing single payer healthcare, enabling a half senile Biden campaign, sabotaged the progressives and Bernie (twice), and gave us fucktards Schumer and Pelosi who are among the most ineffectual hated politicians in America.

    please stop trolling this “vote for DNC to defeat fascism” nonsense. THEY HAD 8 YEARS TO PREPARE A TACTICAL RESPONSE TO TRUMPISM AND YET HERE WE ARE.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      And yet Hillary Clinton has consistently said Citizens United should be overturned all these years.

      How weird that people get so upset when I inform them that all of their worries are an actual official stance of the DNC. You would think it would be a comfort if they actually cared about any such issues.

      • stopdropandprole@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        14 hours ago

        During the 2008 political primary season, it sought to run three television advertisements to promote its political documentary Hillary: The Movie, a film that was critical of Hillary Clinton

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

        I was being a little tongue in cheek about Hillary’s role, mostly speaking to the fact that her desire to seek power endlessly and run for president against Obama in '08, is what led to the creation of the eponymous film which was the basis for Citizens United filing a suit in court. it might have happened anyway, eventually, but it’s not widely appreciated how much harm she and the DNC have done to our political culture, including losing to Trump so spectacularly in '16.

        every significant Democrat has said they’re opposed to Citizens United… none of them have actually done anything to accomplish overturning it. actions speak louder than words. same with Roe v Wade, they had decades to codify it and failed.

        my whole point is not about what they oppose or support, it’s that they’re ineffectual in either direction. they routinely fail at shaking up the system and manipulating the courts in favor of the 99% of Americans who they claim to support. meanwhile the GOP runs roughshod over jurisprudence and the courts and civil liberties. Dems are still better than GOP by miles and miles, but nowhere near adequate as an opposition political party.

        • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 hour ago

          The basis for Citizens United was that the Lobby Group named Citizens United and several others wanted to use money to influence politics, a law drafted in 1995 by Democrats and pushed through in 2002 by Democrats stopped them, and technically they had the constitutional protection of free speech to influence politics with money as interpreted by the SCOTUS after hearings occurring between 2008 and 2010.

          There is no vast widespan conspiracy to dig into, it’s really that simple.

          Hillary Clinton’s approval was at one point 90% among registered Democrats. She’s been a political activist for so long that she shared a stage with Bernie Sanders during the civil rights movement (although she later had a huge gaff and asked where Bernie was while she was doing that because clearly she didn’t remember he was there with her). SOURCE: PEW RESEARCH

          If you want effective democrats then put a majority in the house and 60 in the senate.