I’ll take this opportunity to remind people that Tesla vehicles are surveillance devices, and that the cops have access to facial recognition software. Plan your life accordingly.

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    But if someone torches a Toyota Camry or spray paints a Ford F150 it’s just vandalism. Only when it affects the richest man in the world is it considered terrorism.

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      Unpopular take, but I do believe this qualifies as terrorism. Definition 1, “the unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives.” Definition 4, “intimidation or coercion by instilling fear”. Haven’t seen it escalate to the level of physical violence, fist/gun fights yet. But it meets the definition of terrorism.

      “SELL YOUR SWASTIKAR NAO.” Sounds to me like…intimidation or coercion by instilling fear.

      There is more than slight difference between setting a single Toyota Camry on fire or spraypainting a single Ford F150 & specifically torching 10 Tesla charging stations, torching/shooting 17+ Tesla cars, latexing a Tesla robot, and damaging 4+ Tesla showrooms. An isolated incident can be written off as vandalism; multiple specifically targeted attacks (at least 32 objects, properties of like brand) & fuck knows how many more swastikas & nonsense put on cars out in the wild…that strikes me as the unlawful use of violence or threats to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or government, with the goal of furthering political, social, or ideological objectives. AKA, terrorism. You can’t do or encourage the literal definition of a thing & then deny you’re that thing. If you’re going to be a bitch, you gotta be the whole bitch.

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        And I don’t 100% disagree. I’m just pointing out the double standard. If J6 was just a peaceful protest after they vandalized property, terrorized elected officials, and attacked police, then how is vandalizing Teslas terrorism? Either it’s all terrorism or none of it is. If you choose what’s terrorism and what’s not based on who it affects and not what actually happened you’re just putting targets on specific people. As you said, if you’re going to be a bitch, you gotta be the whole bitch.

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          J6, big can of worms. I can agree that the individuals who vandalized government property, broke doors & windows & such, terrorized elected officials, and attacked police receive a terrorism charge. I mean why not. It would enforce order, civility.

          Coincidentally, I have a guy who talked with a pardoned J6er. An older man. According to him, he saw a police officer take out a baton & beat the shit out of an older woman for no reason, then he tried to just disappear back into the crowd of police. Old man visually tracked him, tracked him down a short while later, and administered his own beatdown on the policeman. Old man was identified, plead guilty to charges, jailed until recently. In retrospect, he admitted he “shouldn’t have done that”.

          Again, according to his testimony. I wasn’t there, idk. I see a decent amount of ACAB on these forums, and if he’s being honest…that was his reason for attacking a police officer on Jan 6th. Because he was beating the shit out of an older woman with his baton, without cause. ¯\(°_o)/¯

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      Funny how just a few years ago those same people wouldn’t even have pissed on a burning Tesla. Musk decides to do a Nazi salute and all of a sudden conservatives love Tesla now.

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        Those same people invaded our nations capital in an attempt to over throw our government… And now they are in charge of the government.