The weirdest round of phone sex yet.

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    6 days ago

    He referring to Putin. And you reply to any criticism of Ukraine by referring to Russia.

    Putin is bad. He cracks down on protestors with batons. He assassinates political dissidents.

    But so is Ukraine who guns down protestors and also assassinates political dissidents.

    It is not very leftist of you to support a country that guns down a crowd.

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      5 days ago

      Not very leftist of me to support a country which has been invaded by a dictator for the past 3 years? Plus the previous period where Putin had started another war and successfully invaded a vast part of Ukraine.

      You aren’t a leftist, you’re supporting an extreme right wing dictator. I don’t care if you criticise my leftist cred, I’m supporting a country being invaded by a dictator who won’t even allow his war to be called a war. It’s very simple.

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        Not very leftist of me to support a country which has been invaded by a dictator for the past 3 years?

        It is not very leftist of you to support a country that was created by Right Wing Neo-Nazi elements of a movement whom shot protestors, blamed this on the previous government, overthrew said previous government and then proceeded to commit massacres.

        Plus the previous period where Putin had started another war and successfully invaded a vast part of Ukraine.

        What are you referring to? Ukrainian Civil War that was started by Ukraine? Or the air assault on Crimea which was started by Russia in response towards the coup?

        You aren’t a leftist, you’re supporting an extreme right wing dictator. I don’t care if you criticise my leftist cred, I’m supporting a country being invaded by a dictator who won’t even allow his war to be called a war. It’s very simple.

        By your own definition of leftist, you yourself is not one.

        You support a dictator whom capitulated to neo-nazis and praises Bandera. Whom won’t even allow his war to be called a war, but instead used the term Joint Forces Operation.

        Do you believe that the man who had his hands up and on his knees deserved to be shot by the Azovites, do you believe that the machine gunner firing shots towards a crowd was a nice idea, and do you think that shooting at ambulances is the best way to defend democracy?

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          5 days ago

          You have enough waffle for an IHOP. All desperately trying to distract from the fact that Putin has invaded and occupied part of another country and then started a war and possibly WW3 by invading that country again. At least Europe isn’t standing by and appeasing fascists this time around.

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            All desperately trying to distract from the fact that Putin has invaded and occupied part

            810th Separate Naval Infantry Brigade was stationed in Crimea as per treaty with Ukraine as Russia made an agreement with the legitimate government of Ukraine before Maidan to continue their lease over Sevastapol.

            Russia stated that the formation of the illegitimate government threatened military infrastructure in Crimea which they rightfully owned due to an agreement with the previous government so Russia conducted in support of 810th, an air assault on Crimea.

            This invasion happened after Maidan movement seized the government and started mentioning that they will revoke the Sevastopol port license.

            The unrest also gave Russia a nice excuse to also annex region.

            In the end, most in Crimea accepted this, most of the Ukrainian military defected to Russia without a shot being fired, and Russian troops enjoyed their sausages.

            Had they not, Ukraine likely would have conducted massacres in Crimea like they did in Mariupol.

            How to prevent annexation of Crimea? Not have neo-Nazis overthrow the semi-democratic government.

            then started a war and possibly WW3 by invading that country again

            Perhaps Zelenskyy should have implemented Minsk as was expected of him. The war would have not had happened if he lived up to his campaign promises instead of capitulating to neo-Nazis.

            You never answered my question.

            Do you believe that the man who had his hands up and on his knees deserved to be shot by the Azovites, do you believe that the machine gunner firing shots towards a crowd was a nice idea, and do you think that shooting at ambulances is the best way to defend democracy?

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              I don’t believe that Russians deserve to be sent by putin to another country, with insufficient supplies, just to die pointlessly. I don’t believe that Ukrainian people should be murdered while trying to defend their country from Russian invaders. I don’t believe Ukrainian women and children and men should be raped by Russian invaders. It’s all very simple to understand and doesn’t require me to watch any propaganda or read any propaganda.

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                  5 days ago

                  Oh so you do agree? Therefore you can see that me watching your propaganda and trying to determine if there’s any reality to your claims is completely pointless and irrelevant?

                  Your leader putin is in the wrong. People making a ‘both sides’ argument to try to justify an invasion, abuse of the Ukrainian people are only trying to confuse the truth, which is that injustice on a grand scale is being perpetrated by Russians against Ukrainians. We might as well argue that any kind of murder is wrong and we should all be pacifists no matter what is done to us.

                  If you have any humanity stop saying ‘Ukraine is just as bad, look at this one act’ and start telling Russians to get the fuck out of Ukraine and to clean their own house - of Putin and their oligarchs.

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                    You still did not answer my question. Please answer it. Yes or no. Do you believe that those protestors deserved to be massacred by the Ukrainian government? And after you answer this question. I have a few more questions.