We are talking about serious stuff in times that can lead to WW3.
I am human and can get emotional about it.
Throwing a ‘source’ at me from RFE, an entity which is universally known as a US propaganda tool could in itself be seen as an insult and questioning my intelligence.
Besides that, my jab in return was quite mild.
Especially considering the vile insult that get thrown at me constantly by others if I dare question the western narrative.
That puts me in a defensive state already.
Regardless of all this I ended the conversation with:

Thanks for listening, and dissagreeing without arguing or insults. Have a good night.

We ended on good terms, he is OK with it, so should you. You made your point.

This is a conversation that went into a different direction and is in no way related to the RT article.
If someone uses RFE, VOA or any other one of those pure propaganda tools that as a source I certainly am going to question them.
There is no reason why I shouldn’t.

You do notice the article from RT is in English right?

OK thanks for the ! trick (who would know that!?)
And yes I’ll sub to it.

Thanks for the civil talk, I too have to go now.
Will definitely come back to it.

. This is still not refuted by anyone. The only sources

We certainly are talking past eachother.
There is no use if you take claims, allegations and suspicions, which is the only thing your article provides as a source.
Speculations and proof are not the same.
Nobody needs to answer to baseless accusations, certainly not believe them.
When that investigation is still going on you certainly can not say anything is proof.

Kremlin agents supported a fascist nationalist group (that also consider Georgescu the real president) called “Vlad Tepes” in a plan to overthrow the government

I’m sorry but that sounds like a wild made up conspiracy theory.
The same tactics they tried with the Trump-Steele dossier, also based on nothing, with the only purpose to slander him as a Russian asset, even more ridiculous than your claim.
These tactics unfortunately work sometimes.
You should learn to be carefull and investigate everything and find sources for everything.
I will end it here.
I hope you don’t get a fascist, and certainly not a US puppet as is the case now.
The US regime is planning to build a huge base there and if you’re not careful you might be played by them and thrown to the lions.
They are not there to help you or protect you despite what they say.
I have Romanian friends, very nice people.
The country and food is nice too.
Don’t want to see it destroyed for the benefit of these assholes.
Thanks for listening, and dissagreeing without arguing or insults.
Have a good night.

I just want to be able to see them and comment on them.
I can when I click on your link but I wouldn’t even know it existed without you posting it.

now if I go to their main page https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/communities
and choose the same community https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy I can’t.
Maybe it’s easiest to just make a specific account on dbzer0, if that’s allowed.

Again you have no sources, just allegations.
Sources prove stuff, if not it’s worthless

This is how you do it:
https://www.politico.eu/article/investigation-ties-romanian-liberals-tiktok-campaign-pro-russia-candidate-calin-georgescu/
“The center-right Romanian National Liberal Party paid for a campaign” etc, notice that there’s no alledgedly or suspected?
It gives details
who specifically did it: PNL-employee firm, Kensington Communication
how they did it: The firm paid 130 influencers co-opted on the FameUp platform

All backed up by a declassified document of the CSAT and in a report of the Expert Forum.
https://www.presidency.ro/files/userfiles/Documente CSAT/Document CSAT MAI.pdf

That is how you reason and make an argument.
Now admit it was the liberals, that they shamelessly blamed the Russians and your vasal state illegaly corrupted the elections.

TF is this supposed to mean? 🤡 Turkey is 380k from Russia.
Russia has vastly superior thech.
The embarrassing americans just keep failing to make a hypersonic missile while Russia has 4th gen ones. Russia, China, even India and Iran.
And with all the money they are pissing away on their military LOL.

Discredit those too, please

I certainly will.

I’m supposed to read Romanian now? Did you have too many Ursus or palinka? The only one not in Romanian is the garbage and biased western source AP.
Even that says: “suspected of” and “allegedly”.
The normal tactics to throw accusations WITHOUT any PROOF.
When you’re going to make claims you need proof, not this BS.

This is just made up shit to justify their illegal actions of not honoring the election result by the US puppets.
And there certainly isn’t an ‘admission’

I never said I was a fan of Orban or Putin, I’m not. Both are the enemy of my enemy and the lesser evil.
And some countries joined NATO out of free will, plenty others had their regime changed or couped, like ukraine.
And the eastern European vasals ‘under the thumb of capitalism’ as you say are nothing more than pawns to be used for the US regime. Didn’t end well for ukraine did it?
Maybe I’ll quote another Hungarian, George Soros in (1993):

the combination of manpower from Eastern Europe with the technical capabilities of NATO would greatly enhance the military potential of the Partnership because it would reduce the risk of body bags for NATO countries, which is the main constraint on their willingness to act.

Sound familiar? NATO getting them to fight, selling them the ‘military potential’ while the eastrn Europeans fill the body bags?
Who wants to be thrown to the lions next for the US games?

Radio Free Europe?
I’m just not going to comment and let everyone laugh at your source.

It must’ve been that they were so active I got the impression there were more back then.
Also that there is an unhealthy amount of them in our time.
But thanks for correcting me.

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LOL the western propaganda press suddenly quit reporting about that ‘Russian influence’ lie when it was proven it was the Romanian liberals who did it.
You should keep up with the lies you parrot.

Most of the Baltics and especially ukraine had large percentages of nazis.
Nothing has changed.

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Wow, you’re doing some serious revisionism here.
A non-aggression treaty literally is that, they were enemies and it bought time for Russia to arm itself.
Keep focussing and obsessing on that and misrepresenting it to fit your narrative.

It’s a small detail in the big picture and mostly brought up by the those idiots promoting the laughable horseshoe theory.
Same as how they say nazis were socialist bcs of their name.

In no way could those clear enemies be seen as ‘aligned’ and definitely not from something you imagine and want to see in that pact.
It is the Soviets who went to war with the nazis of Germany and of your fascist country that was most certainly aligned with them, had nazi troops there and fought on their side.
I’m done here

As I said ‘spheres of influence and still having the option of having an independent state in Poland’ sounds a lot less bad than simply handing over Sudetenland.
Complaining about only one and ignoring the worse other one is hypocritical at best.
And imagine blaming the Soviets for going in to countries aligned with nazis.
Like Finland, where you’re probably are from and explains your bias.

you seemingly hadn’t heard of the pact

I’ve been to school and it’s invariably mentioned to make the BS claims you make.
And I probably know better than you how Wikipedia works.
NONE of the references show what they claim.
The original texts talk about ‘spheres of influence’ in the tiny Baltics andthe rest is only about Poland.
It even says:
" The question of whether the interests of both parties make desirable the maintenance of an independent Polish States and how such a state should be bounded can only be definitely determined in the course of further political developments."
That hardly sounds like ‘dividing Europe between them’.
I could call that a deliberate misinterpretation.
If you want countries making deals with the nazis that literally say they can annex them even look to the Brits and France. “Czechoslovakia must surrender its border regions and and defenses to Nazi Germany” is more like it.
Funny how they never mention that or the dozen of other pacts with nazis, all of them before the Soviets.