No. Or not yet.

Do you know about the actual liberal party USA? Not a toothless “wing” of the Democratic party. I mean the ACTUAL liberal party we have in this country? They got less votes than Vermin Supreme last election. I hope they will do better next election, but it still won’t amount to even 0.1% of all votes. Because Americans still believe voting third party is “throwing your vote away”, while voting for actual traitors (democrats) or just giving up and voting for the king is the way to go. As long as AOC and others cling to the ramshackle ruin that is the DNC, there straight up is no hope. It is a calcified collection of geriatrics and powerless minorities without a clear goal and no leadership except the already retired ones who play the stock market (Obamas, Pelosis, Bidens…). Look at the dead-eyed onion that is Hakeem Jeffries. “Here is your Obama 2.0 but in boring, pls vote for us. Eminem is endorsing us after we gave him some money, SURELY you will vote for us now?”. Controlled opposition.

Progressive take-over will happen after the second civil war, or not at all.

I swear to god man.

You swear to do what? What are you gonna do about it if we don’t get rid of Trump? If we don’t engage in large-scale riots and die so Canadians are safe? How about YOU do something? The best way to deal with an aggressive neighbor (geopolitically speaking) is invading them to enact regime change or just genocide the people there. Go on. Do it. Put your money where your mouth is and start walking across that border with a weapon in your hand. Once you win you can impose whatever government you want here.

That’s the problem with “Someone should kill Trump and Elon Musk”. The “Someone” part, which translates to “anybody but me I just want to continue being lazy and comfortable”.

The old boomer’s idea of conservatism has already died. Congratulations, you already got what you asked for. It was replaced by a technocracy. Or neo-fascism. Call it whatever you want, but that replacement is thoroughly supported by young people. Zoomers more than millenials.

Statements like yours incite me quite a bit, because I’ve used to say the same thing. “Boomers will die out soon and then we get to take over”. That was 30 years ago. It got worse, not better.

Getting rid of the electoral college would be a good first step. It would still be less than 1% of what needs to be done, but a step in the right direction nonetheless.

You’re getting blackpilled because your scope of what liberal democracy is is incredibly limited and almost childish. Student loan forgiveness? Recognizing Palestine? Those are useless carrots dangled in front of you that do not materially change the country or even count as policies.

If you want to lock out authoritarians for another 100 years and have a real democracy you need to think bigger and grow up. Fundamental voting procedures need to be overhauled. The judiciary needs to be completely removed and then reinstated with additional safeguards against partisanship. Return to a gold standard and abolishment of stocks. Yes, the entire stock market. Quite frankly the entire constitution needs an overhaul to a degree where the old one should just be tossed into a fire and the flag changed afterwards to reflect all these changes to the country.

THAT is what is needed. To remove FUNDAMENTAL and ENDEMIC problems that have been plaguing this republic for 200 years now!

But instead of thinking about that, you just prefer some free money in the form of debt forgiveness. And that’s why Trump won and he and his successor will keep winning for the foreseeable future.

Exactly. Social-democracy is the way forward, I just wish there was a party that would focus on restoring the rules based order and general personal liberties, without getting baited into endless culture wars on hyperspecific topics like trans rights by conservatives. I figure saying this is unpopular on very liberal skewing platforms such as here, but I consider this a huge reason why the middle has largely abandoned Democrats. Feels like Democrats lost the plot and now everything else with it.

Say, for example, someone started a “Socialist” party. Running mainly on domestic issues such as worker’s rights, proportional taxation, rescinding the idea that corporations are people in the eyes of the law. But WITHOUT a clear stance on culture war baggage such as trans rights, DEI related talking points and “wokeness”. Those would be considered state issues and not a domain for the federal government since it distracts from actual geopolitical issues such as wars and climate change catastrophe mitigation.

Would anyone be interested in that? Basically a party that focuses on issues in a similar way AOC does. Socialist, but not communist as I consider the US constitution and the right of elections untouchable. Liberal-socialist, in a way.