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  • Some other EU countries have had their own struggles helping Nazi Germany, and some still have parties that support far-right characters. That doesn’t mean that the countries themselves are led by nazis. Furthermore, as the guy above mentioned, the leadership of Ukraine never followed through to regard this guy as a hero today. However, I find the following quite interesting:

    A poll conducted in early May 2021 by the Democratic Initiatives Foundation together with the Razumkov Centre’s sociological service showed that 32% of citizens considered Bandera’s activity as a historical figure to be positive for Ukraine, as many considered his activity negative; another 21% consider Bandera’s activities as positive as they are negative.

    So, right before Russia invaded Ukraine, people were against this guy. However, as soon as Ukraine’s independence was threatened by the same entity that this guy advocated against, people changed their opinion. The poll was taken immediately after the invasion, which would be a bit of a confounding variable here.

    I chalk it up to socio-economic issues due to the Soviet Union, which led to poor education in many areas of Ukraine. See East Germany, where a majority of people have voted for AfD. Oh, and let’s not forget the overall negative sentiment against Russia after they invaded in 2014.

    Nevertheless, would you argue that invading Ukraine to “denazify” them makes sense in this context? You mentioned atrocities from WW2, but that’s not being done today. Whatever deaths that were happening pre-2022 conflict were due to the Donbas War, which Russia also instigated. What reason would you then have to support Russia in this conflict? It is pretty clear that they are pulling in many arguments to justify their expansionist wishes.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am also of the opinion that the US should gtfo of Europe, but I do not see a reason to excuse whatever Putin’s regime has been doing.




  • How can you have democracy if you let people vote for a person that says he will remove all political parties? There must be checks and balances that stop you at some point. Also, Romanian law prohibits candidates with ties to fascist or extremist ideologies from participating in elections. That’s in the law, introduced by people that were democratically elected.

    But lets be honest, it’s the not being hostile to Russia that did it. Can’t have that in a US colony where they plan to have the biggest base for their imperialist wars.

    Sure, the US that is now serving up its allies on a silver platter to Putin? His friend Trump is going to revert sanctions any day now for that sweet oil. For power in the Middle East, maybe, but the EU is hopefully going to wake up soon and kick all American bases ASAP.

    And who helped the openly fascists ukranian to power in 2014?

    Firstly, the Euromaidan protests didn’t get hundreds of thousands of people attending just because they got brainwashed by the EU/US. Allegedly, Russia attempted to do the same thing in Romania with Georgescu, and only a few hundred people showed up to protest the decision to take him off the ballot. People in Ukraine felt betrayed when Yanukovych wanted to reject EU and get closer with Russia, a country that has had 146% voter turnout during one of its recent elections. Arguably, maybe the EU is not the best, but its system is way more decentralized than Russia’s, allowing better representation of its population and reducing the chance of corruption. At least we don’t hear people that are criticizing the government “randomly” falling out of windows here…

    Secondly, Poroshenko was openly fascist? Or whom exactly do you mean? If I’m not mistaken, Poroshenko assigned a Jewish person as his prime minister. Or you might be hinting at the Azov Brigade being integrated by him into the national army? What would you do when Russia starts invading your country, though? Either way, you might be right that it is in the benefit of the EU (and perhaps US) to have closer ties with Ukraine, but it goes both ways. Ukraine did not like what happened in Georgia, and wanted more security and pro-democracy allies. That does not mean that the EU made Ukraine into a Nazi puppet state to fight Russia.