• LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    I’m not saying that not even a single person voted for Trump, mistakenly believing his human rights policies to be better. I am saying that is an extreme outlier. The majority of those refusing to vote for Kamala Harris in relation to the ongoing Palestinian genocide were Palestinians.

    Just reading the last paragraph really shows how separated you are from the concept of genocide. The amount of death and destruction wrought while Biden was president is unlike anything that had happened there before the Nakba. The equivalent of several nuclear bombs. The total devastation of their entire culture. They pleaded with the Biden administration for a full year. They protested around the world. Biden and Harris did nothing. Harris indicated she was going to continue the Biden admin’s policy agenda with Israel. You were asking them to vote for people who openly said they’d arm and fund a regime that is decimating their communities, murdering their families, raping their people, and destroying their homeland. This ALL happened under Biden, and Harris openly refused to commit to changing that.

    • PointyReality@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Versus the current situation. I still stand firm in my belief that there was a better chance to have had a better outcome for Palestine under the alternative administration then the current one who deports people for speaking out against it.

      I am not separated by anything that is occurring in Palestine or the lack of humanity surrounding the issue, it’s a tragedy and one that is likely to repeat if we don’t understand what went wrong with people and how they interpreted not only the parties but the whole situation leading up to the election. One campaign was very authoritarian in their messaging and the other simply said no. Under which administration do you think there would have been a better chance to have had applied more pressure and possibly create a change in their stance towards this issue?

      • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        Biden sat back and did nothing for over a year while Israel committed genocide. He didn’t have to do that. Why do you talk like he had no choice? Why do you talk like Kamala had no choice? Why are you occupying your time and your anger directing it at Palestinians who wouldn’t vote for somebody funding and arming a state that is massacring them, tearing down their communities and literally raping them?

        Would you vote for someone destroying your community? Would you vote for someone committing genocide against your people? Would you have the jews of France in the 30s vote for a party that gave the Nazis guns and money?

        This is what I’m saying by you are entirely separated from it. You only see the genocide as a political event that you can interpret to provide material and ideological support to the democratic party. You’re entirely blind to the reality that it was a global series of events supported, protected, enabled, and perpetrated by the United States government under Joe Biden.

        It’s over, Harris fucking lost. The democratic party has failed. It’s done. You can’t take it back. You are now presented with what to do now. You have chosen to spend your time lecturing Palestinians on why they should vote for the party paying the state that’s murdering and raping them. Instead of holding democrats accountable for their crimes. Instead of demanding a party that stands firm on human rights and refuses to partake in any genocide anywhere. Instead of demanding change, you are here bitching about Palestinians who won’t provide political votes to a party that engaged in over a year of open support for and defense of Palestinian genocide.

        You are entirely separated from it. It’s just something that happened somewhere else to someone else. It’s just an inconvenience to you that it exists at all. It’s biggest impact on your life was how many votes your political party got. You’re entirely blind and ignorant towards the millions of people who’s lives were destroyed beyond recognition by Israel. No, your main focus is on the few people who wouldn’t vote for your political party on account of that party’s support and endorsement of genocide.

        • PointyReality@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 day ago

          Yes, because I stand firm in my belief that there was a better chance to have had a better outcome under a Democratic administration after applying more pressure then the current fascist one. Thank you for your time but it appears you are just going around in circles at this point with your view.

          • GreyAlien@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            The dishonesty you are displaying throughout this thread is truly worrying…

            • PointyReality@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              1 day ago

              How is my opinion dishonest, considering the current fascist regime is deporting people. Whereas under Biden there was still a chance to protest. Which one would you think then allowed an environment for further protest to then allow for possible change in how the US handled or currently handling the situation?