At this point, they don’t need martial law to call off elections anymore, it’s already done.

Sincerely, good bye…

You missed my point. It was always clear for +90% of leftists that trump was worst.

You will not feel betrayed by your enemies but you will feel betrayed by your allies is the point.

Still there is no interest in discussing why this demographic felt betrayed, democrats were angry when trump backstabbed Zelensky rightly so, yet you cannot see how it was the same thing when the democrats were collaborating with the extermination of the people they were supposed to protect? with the extreme violence lashed out on the protest? The harassment? The doxxing? The clear avoidance of international sanctions etc.

Like come on, it would not have been my choice to not vote or vote trump but at some point we should reflect on the why and understand that the democrats acted in a shitty way and betrayed their voter base, it’s as simple as that.

The dishonesty you are displaying throughout this thread is truly worrying…

Anything but talk about the actual post… smh

“the muslims” Okay now let’s see what it would looks like if I change this word by an other one starting with a J.

Wait…?! Why I’m getting Déjà vu…ಠ_ಠ

I’m sorry but in this context, under this specific post, you do not seem genuine or honest from my POV, if you are truly interested in my opinion you will find it in this thread.

What else is there to say if not than the democrats have pushed for the ostracism of their own base to pander to their donors, failed to reach a majority of the population due to a baseless political program…?

Keep on poking, acting all virtuous, and generalizing the minority yet most activist part of your voter base… I mean wake me up when the democrats do the next protest, I wouldn’t want to miss such a rare occurrence, and oh my… The cardboard are so creative…

Edit: If your first instinct about Israel officially announcing they will ethnically cleanse people was to ask a non question about why 1% of the american may have withhold their vote because of the Palestinian Genocide… Yet not considering Roe vs Wades, the hundreds of massacres sponsored by the US, the non action against the corrupted media owned by American Oligarchs and the corrupted and criminal enterprise which is the MAGA Movement than what went wrong in your thought process…

I wonder why an organization as extreme as Hamas could see the light of a day… Could it be because their people have been ethnically cleansed and put into ghettos, victimized by segregated laws, put into camps by the only “country” in the world that allow children to be put in prison without trial and probable cause?

You want to put the focus on “khamas” while literal children are being maimed and decapited, innocents getting raped, hospitals and schools being bombed from times much older than when Hamas was founded.

You do not care about women, you hate them and you are instrumentalizing their rights, or else you would be advocating for their right to live. Social progress comes after escaping the grasp of a genocidal entity.

Indeed, it was mostly my first reaction and I should have added more arguments as to why I was thinking this way, I guess the fact that I was answering what I deem a dishonest and low-effort deflection made me react this way.

Though, I did follow up on multiple instances in this comment section about my opinion on the matter and explained it.

Edit: My bad, It wasn’t on this particular post I did not pay enough attention on where I said what. If you are interested in my POV you can find it on my profile.

My sincere apologies mr causality for implying you were edgy, I know now that my words about you being edgy could be upsetting, I take them back.

Thank you! I will definitely give it a try.

so edgy

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edit: totally not edgy

I would like to mitigate your opinion with the fact that throughout history, it was people with “leftists” ideas that allowed for a fairer society and most social rights, nowadays they are the one doing most for international justice and climate change, making them all accelerationists when a lot of them literally put their lives in jeopardy to make the world a better place for people they don’t know all while many democrats and liberals laughed about them because “tomato sauce on a plastic case in a museum is silly they should be put in prison for 5 years poor painting” or “some leftist didnt voted for kamala and now many palestinians get annihilated, love to see the pain on their face”.

I guess lots of things must change…

Also how do you know most leftists didn’t voted for Harris? From all I know the loud anti Kamala crowds has been amplified by foreign actors like in 2016 to make it look like it was a majority and divide the democrats further as well as reinforced gerrymandering policies. Let’s remind ourselves that Biden had 4 years to put trump and his corrupted goons in prison yet did nothing, the left has never ever been in power throughout the existence of the US putting the blame on them for trump is silly as they are the last barrier of protection before full blown fascism.

You are right that it is necessary to have this conversation but is it the right place to do it under this particular post ?

Also even if I totally understand your point of view and could definitely debate about it, something is bothering me, where does the democratic party errors comes into play? Why put all the blames on a minor part of the voter base? If we look at hard numbers the chances of Kamala winning were still extremely low even if she won their votes so it’s seem pointless for me to always keep poking the wounds under any post with a mention of Palestinians.

My point is that we should be going forward and not ostracizing a part of the voter base even more, these are hard times ahead of us and uniting is what I think the only solution, some Pro-Palestinians may have not voted or even voted for trump but we need to remember that if they are (rightly) angry it’s because they have been failed, I cannot fathom how one must feel seeing dozens of corpses everyday that looks like them for more than a year while knowing their taxes go towards the ones doing it.

It’s a duty to reconcile the voter base and create a strong front against fascism worldwide.

1. I may have used the wrong word but I think you understood what I meant. It’s not an essay, I was displaying the fact that some minority opinions and certain groups of individuals get targeted because they are easy target that helps sway the blame away.

2. About your second point, I don’t think it’s correct or else we wouldn’t be reading the gloating in the comments I’m targeting.

3. I am not and will never be a centrist nor a republican, but I will criticize what I deem injustice, bad policies, weak strategies (like ostracizing more of your voter base to make them numb)… etc

May you explain with more clarity what you mean by causes?

I already gave my opinion in this comment section. The people parroting “Kamala lost because of Pro-Palestinians” are ostriches that cannot look at themselves in the mirror due to their egocentrism. So when they fail all they can do to heal their hurt feelings is to scapegoat the weakest they have in hand rather than unit and fight back against extremism of all sorts.

Like at what point is it a fact and a reality that Pro-Palestinians had so much influence over the elections that it made trump win? like come on even if they all voted for her nothing would have changed.

Focus on the real issue, responsibility of the US and the international community, the situation is much older and complex than this idiotic debate about trump/biden/kamala.

There is currently a Genocide yet people keep changing subject with bs story.

Unfortunately it isn’t. When I have some time I call these things out and advocate because I think it’s important that we do not fall into this force feed normalization of cruelty.

Waze

So the mask comes off. Rather than encouraging the exchange of ideas with people who make the effort of using a language other than their own, you resort to insults…. pathetic.