Prime Minister Mark Carney has asked for a review of Canada’s plan to purchase a fleet of F-35 fighter jets.
The deal with Lockheed Martin and the U.S. government is for 88 planes at a cost of about US$85 million each.
A spokesperson for Defence Minister Bill Blair said Carney has asked Blair to look into whether the F-35 contract is the best investment for Canada, or if there are better options.
“We need to do our homework given the changing environment, and make sure that the contract in its current form is in the best interests of Canadians and the Canadian Armed Forces,” Blair’s press secretary Laurent de Casanove said.
Canada. Doesn’t. Need. Fighter. Jets.
Maybe you should pay better attention to what is going on in the world right now.
Is Russia going to invade Canada? 🙄
I fucking hate how liberals have turned into NatSec war hawks and are demanding every country from Canada to Portugal buy more fucking fighter jets. Instead of wasting money on the MIC how about they invest in their people?
Trump has said on multiple occasions that Canada WILL become the 51st state. In order to keep at least a modicum of democracy alive here we must fight to save it, because every form of diplomacy we’ve tried has failed.
Trump wants Canada under his thumb, and when someone tells you who they are and what they want, believe them.
So yes, we need everything we can get to help the nation survive, including fighter jets … although tbf I’m not even sure we’d get them in time. But we have to try, no matter what.
If that’s not your thing, fine. You have every right to choose differently. But don’t condemn those of us who are willing to fight.
Trump says a lot of stupid shit.
But let’s entertain the idea that he’s serious and that he will be allowed to start a war on Canada. Do you think Canada can buy enough jets to even matter? Can you even imagine how much that would cost? Is there even enough productive capacity in the world for those jets to be delivered in less than ten years? Come on.
If it comes to a fight against the US the best strategy is guerilla warfare. It’s been tried and tested from Vietnam to Iraq!
Trump says a lot of stupid shit.
Yes he does, but strangely enough he’s followed through with a lot more of it in his 2.0 incarnation.
Do you think Canada can buy enough jets to even matter?
As I said previously I’m not even sure we could have any delivered before the conflict began. But that shouldn’t negate us at least trying.
Can you even imagine how much that would cost?
Yes, billions of dollars.
Would you also recommend that Ukraine stop spending money it doesn’t have to fight Russia? I sure hope not.
Is there even enough productive capacity in the world for those jets to be delivered in less than ten years?
Already answered more than once.
If it comes to a fight against the US the best strategy is guerilla warfare.
Agreed. That is what we will end up in. I’m wondering why you wouldn’t want more fighting power tho?
Would you also recommend that Ukraine stop spending money it doesn’t have to fight Russia? I sure hope not.
This is a complicated matter.
I would recommend Ukraine stop indebting itself to the Western MIC by spending money it doesn’t have fighting to the last Ukrainian, and refocus the war effort on a protracted people’s war against the invasion. That means not kidnapping unwilling people off the street to die in the front lines, instead refocusing the war efforts on longer term guerilla tactics and entrenchment in the territory they do control. This does mean losing territory in areas where the people are more sympathetic to invading Russian forces, which might be the case in Crimea and the Donbass region. Guerillas can’t fight without support from the masses.
Fight like the Vietminh. Fight like Hamas. That is how you repel a stronger occupying military force.
If we apply this to Canada, the question becomes: are there regions of Canada that might be more sympathetic to the US than to their own Canadian government? I don’t think so, since unlike the situation with Ukraine the only lingual minority is French speaking and they might dislike the US even more than the rest of Canada! So, the situation is different.
Agreed. That is what we will end up in. I’m wondering why you wouldn’t want more fighting power tho?
I don’t think it’s the most prudent use of military funds. The jets will be destroyed in weeks or less.
Guerillas can fight for years and decades, and that’s what they should be prepared for instead of wasting money on military boondoggles. They should be entrenching themselves with bunkers, tunnels, and be prepared for a long defense. This is why they need to invest in their people - Canadians will embrace guerrilla resistance if they know that Canadian independence is in their material interests.
Jets are just a waste.
Canada could do the funniest thing rn by buying J-35s at half the price.
It would be funny, but damn I would not want to buy military equipment from china
USA: We want to annex Canada. We are not joking
Canadians: Ooh China is very scary.
China is Canada’s second biggest trade partner, unless they’re planning to follow America to war with China, what’s the problem? Especially because it’s for a military that was designed for the singular purpose of defending itself from an American invasion over the last 70 years.
What’s the problem?? China has shown its intent in other parts of the world with its ‘belt and road’ initiative and, tbh, Canada has little incentive to join that. Never mind the fact that the scumbag Stephen Harper locked us into a decidedly one-sided, 31 year long FIPPA with China that can’t end until 2045.
Added to that is all the money laundering and fraud that China committed here beginning in the '90s.
Most Canadians are aware of this stuff, so are wary of joining forces with China in any way, shape or form.
China has shown its intent in other parts of the world with its ‘belt and road’ initiative
That intent being mutual development so other countries are less dependent on China’s enemy and their economies can’t be leveraged against China?
No. Their manipulation of poorer nations where China ‘lends’ them the money to complete projects that primarily benefit China, leaving the nations forever in China’s debt.
You’re just describing the IMF’s model and pretending China is doing it. When countries were unable to pay back the loans, China has refinanced or forgiven them.
Having good relations and a country that isn’t dependent on the west benefits China a lot more than slightly reduced costs to transport goods to a country, that every other country also reaps when a port or railroad is built.
Can I interest you in a Eurofighter Typhoon?
Tbf. The F35 owns the sky. The Typhoon wins in a dog fight, but the way the F35 operates it eliminates the threat long before the dog fight. I would love for a European fifth generation replacing the F35 tho’
Dogfights aren’t a thing anymore in modern aviation. There’s a reason it was barely considered in the procurement process that led to the F-35 acquisition. Sure hope other countries step up to the plate to build viable exportable alternatives to the F-35.
They said this before Vietnam and it was wrong. Ironically if truly stealth fighters with low radar and ir profiles were to engage each other in the air they would probably end up using guns primarily again as radar/ir guided missiles wouldn’t be reliable in this event.
