Don’t care what’s a dirty word where, I don’t self-censor. Yeah outside the US liberal means market-liberal (libertarians). The Liberal party USA is a splinter of libertarians as well. They had a fall-out at a libertarian convention in 2022, where it became clear libertarians were bought by Russia, started calling for appeasement to Russia and some members started being overtly racist. About a fifth of the caucus left the convention in disgust and formed the “Liberal Party”, which is actually pretty socially progressive while retaining fiscal conservatism. As for third party math, all it would need to take for third parties to work is for people to vote for it. Have enough people do that and dems might actually re-align. It just can’t continue on like this.
Don’t care what’s a dirty word where, I don’t self-censor. Yeah outside the US liberal means market-liberal (libertarians). The Liberal party USA is a splinter of libertarians as well. They had a fall-out at a libertarian convention in 2022, where it became clear libertarians were bought by Russia, started calling for appeasement to Russia and some members started being overtly racist. About a fifth of the caucus left the convention in disgust and formed the “Liberal Party”, which is actually pretty socially progressive while retaining fiscal conservatism. As for third party math, all it would need to take for third parties to work is for people to vote for it. Have enough people do that and dems might actually re-align. It just can’t continue on like this.