I feel like to a point it might be, but to a point in today’s age and internet - everything is an echo chamber so it’s turned into a “pick ypur poison” kind of thing.
That being said, open discourse and actual conversation seems more prevalent and easier to come by here then on reddit which is very nice.
That being said, open discourse and actual conversation seems more prevalent and easier to come by here then on reddit which is very nice.
A result of decentralization. There absolutely are instances full of insufferable whatevers for many varieties of whatever, but being decentralized makes it a lot harder for them to utterly own all discussion on a topic in the way that often happens on Reddit.
Doxxing is explicitly against their code of conduct: “Do not publish, comment, message, or post personally identifiable information about other users. We also strongly discourage posting any personally identifiable information about yourself.” They are the only instance that doesn’t log IP addresses in their database and scrubs meta-data from any image uploaded there.
Where are their communities dedicated to brigading? There is no actual proof of them doing anything like that, more so it is the most active instance (4.9 million comments) so anyone posting blatant lies like you will be confronted.
Hexbears troll and give personal attacks against either those that start it with them or people who are racist, homophobic, transphobic, or ableist.
And the US doesn’t torture prisoners. And Russia didn’t invade Ukraine. And nothing happened in China on 4th June 1989…
The rules are completely unenforced, and also generally don’t apply for actions against people on other instances. Take a look at slop as the biggest example where they link to other instances and swathes of Hexbear users go brigade that post without even taking the time to factcheck, and look around at their other communities and you’ll find plenty of similar ones.
there is no proof of “swaths of hexbear users” going to brigrade the post go ahead and make a kbin/piefed account and compare upvotes and accounts if you need to
try posting “ukraine has nazis” in !ukraine@sopuli.xyz or “the xinjian reducation camps have been closed for years” in !world@lemmy.world and see what happens
It’s only whataboutism if you avoid answering. I gave examples of other times where self-imposed rules were blatantly broken while those who broke the rules claimed no wrongdoing.
You’re actually the one using whataboutisms as you’re calling out similar communities as problematic without actually addressing the near-identical issues with Hexbear (additionally many of those communities have rules against direct links, unlike those on Hexbear).
Additionally, the reason there’s no proof Hexbear users are behind brigading is because they’re defederated at the moment - Hexbear users can’t vote on other instances, hence me saying it’ll be an issue when they re-enable federation. Going back a few months, I have seen a large number of posts with sensible debate being downvoted and a disproportionate number of comments from Hexbear users, checked “The Dunk Tank” (slop’s predecessor) and sure enough there’s a post linking directly to it.
I feel like to a point it might be, but to a point in today’s age and internet - everything is an echo chamber so it’s turned into a “pick ypur poison” kind of thing.
That being said, open discourse and actual conversation seems more prevalent and easier to come by here then on reddit which is very nice.
A result of decentralization. There absolutely are instances full of insufferable whatevers for many varieties of whatever, but being decentralized makes it a lot harder for them to utterly own all discussion on a topic in the way that often happens on Reddit.
That’s a good point! I hadn’t considered that previously.
True.
Plus, I had forgotten how much I missed actual conversation!
I think the different instances help with that, as it encourages at least some interaction outside of your direct bubble…
That said when Hexbear re-enable federation I very much doubt “open discourse” or “actual conversation” will be the results
Oh I hadn’t heard about that. Could you elaborate at all or point me in the direction of some more info?
Hexbear is a tankie instance that celebrates & encourages doxing, trolling & personal attacks and has large communities dedicated to brigading.
They disabled federation due to technical issues regarding domain registration but are planning on re-enabling it once it’s fixed
You are a shameful liar.
Doxxing is explicitly against their code of conduct: “Do not publish, comment, message, or post personally identifiable information about other users. We also strongly discourage posting any personally identifiable information about yourself.” They are the only instance that doesn’t log IP addresses in their database and scrubs meta-data from any image uploaded there.
Where are their communities dedicated to brigading? There is no actual proof of them doing anything like that, more so it is the most active instance (4.9 million comments) so anyone posting blatant lies like you will be confronted.
Hexbears troll and give personal attacks against either those that start it with them or people who are racist, homophobic, transphobic, or ableist.
And the US doesn’t torture prisoners. And Russia didn’t invade Ukraine. And nothing happened in China on 4th June 1989…
The rules are completely unenforced, and also generally don’t apply for actions against people on other instances. Take a look at slop as the biggest example where they link to other instances and swathes of Hexbear users go brigade that post without even taking the time to factcheck, and look around at their other communities and you’ll find plenty of similar ones.
you are using whataboutism please stop commenting in bad faith to defend your dishonest nature
how is slop any different from !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works or !fediverselore@lemmy.ca or !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ? they all include links or pictures of users the poster deems bad
there is no proof of “swaths of hexbear users” going to brigrade the post go ahead and make a kbin/piefed account and compare upvotes and accounts if you need to
try posting “ukraine has nazis” in !ukraine@sopuli.xyz or “the xinjian reducation camps have been closed for years” in !world@lemmy.world and see what happens
the !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone community just bans you for even having an alt on hexbear
how is what hexbear doing any different from other every other instance?
It’s only whataboutism if you avoid answering. I gave examples of other times where self-imposed rules were blatantly broken while those who broke the rules claimed no wrongdoing.
You’re actually the one using whataboutisms as you’re calling out similar communities as problematic without actually addressing the near-identical issues with Hexbear (additionally many of those communities have rules against direct links, unlike those on Hexbear).
Additionally, the reason there’s no proof Hexbear users are behind brigading is because they’re defederated at the moment - Hexbear users can’t vote on other instances, hence me saying it’ll be an issue when they re-enable federation. Going back a few months, I have seen a large number of posts with sensible debate being downvoted and a disproportionate number of comments from Hexbear users, checked “The Dunk Tank” (slop’s predecessor) and sure enough there’s a post linking directly to it.