All your arguments are based on claims that are guesses or just plainly untrue. This not not a serious discussion. It makes sense that your sources and ‘experiences’ come from vaush and twitter. Touch grass, talk to some experienced antifascist activists and maybe read some books.
Edit: and maybe reach out to a disabled community (in a respectful manner) to learn about how ableist language impacts them.
All your arguments are based on claims that are guesses or just plainly untrue. This not not a serious discussion.
If your argument is to lie about our discussion then your statement is correct, it is not a serious discussion.
It makes sense that your sources and ‘experiences’ come from vaush and twitter.
Yes, we are discussing how to deal with fascists in social environments where there is limited space and/or time to communicate between parties. So the examples are drawn from relevant sources such as twitter and political debates.
Touch grass, talk to some experienced antifascist activists and maybe read some books.
It’s raining too much to mow, maybe next week. So not you then. I recommend Why Nations Fail.
Edit: and maybe reach out to a disabled community (in a respectful manner) to learn about how ableist language impacts them.
There were people from the queer and neurodivergent communities in the chat discussing the topics with Vaush. They agreed with him.
You can always find people of any group to agree with any statement (especially if they’re already watching an ableist person). Which is why I’m telling you to seek out actual disabled communities. They often have advocacy and activist subgroups who can tell you a lot about ableism, its impact on disabled people and effective activism against it.
Real life discourse is very different from online discourse, and real life is where actual activism is done and changes are made.
Many of the people in Vaush’s community consider themselves autistic. In fact many in his audience identify as part of the neurodivergent and/or queer communities. Nor is Vaush an ableist person, he just uses rhetoric effectively. My argument has exceeded the arbitrary bars your argument has set. Regardless none of these criticisms have any bearing on the content of my argument. These ad hominem suggestions are not a requirement to discuss this topic nor do they have any bearing on the validity of effective strategies to defeat fascism.
Real life discourse is very different from online discourse, and real life is where actual activism is done and changes are made.
The idea that online discourse doesn’t impact real life is nonsense. The far-right is spreading online just fine and they shape public opinion everyday. The idea that we could dismiss the internet, the largest and fastest communication network, for its potential to act as a means of activism and change is laughable. This belief is in part why the left is losing. Coupled with this moral obsession to be pure by not saying bad words.
Your argument has nothing to offer to justify being rhetorically ineffective. It only provides straw men, ad hominem statements, and blatant lies. Nothing your argument has offered will do anything to stem the tied of far-right propaganda online that is going to get so many people killed. On the ground action is of course still a necessary component of resisting fascism, but the far-right will run circles around us on the left if we do not take the internet seriously.
All your arguments are based on claims that are guesses or just plainly untrue. This not not a serious discussion. It makes sense that your sources and ‘experiences’ come from vaush and twitter. Touch grass, talk to some experienced antifascist activists and maybe read some books.
Edit: and maybe reach out to a disabled community (in a respectful manner) to learn about how ableist language impacts them.
If your argument is to lie about our discussion then your statement is correct, it is not a serious discussion.
Yes, we are discussing how to deal with fascists in social environments where there is limited space and/or time to communicate between parties. So the examples are drawn from relevant sources such as twitter and political debates.
It’s raining too much to mow, maybe next week. So not you then. I recommend Why Nations Fail.
There were people from the queer and neurodivergent communities in the chat discussing the topics with Vaush. They agreed with him.
You can always find people of any group to agree with any statement (especially if they’re already watching an ableist person). Which is why I’m telling you to seek out actual disabled communities. They often have advocacy and activist subgroups who can tell you a lot about ableism, its impact on disabled people and effective activism against it.
Real life discourse is very different from online discourse, and real life is where actual activism is done and changes are made.
Many of the people in Vaush’s community consider themselves autistic. In fact many in his audience identify as part of the neurodivergent and/or queer communities. Nor is Vaush an ableist person, he just uses rhetoric effectively. My argument has exceeded the arbitrary bars your argument has set. Regardless none of these criticisms have any bearing on the content of my argument. These ad hominem suggestions are not a requirement to discuss this topic nor do they have any bearing on the validity of effective strategies to defeat fascism.
The idea that online discourse doesn’t impact real life is nonsense. The far-right is spreading online just fine and they shape public opinion everyday. The idea that we could dismiss the internet, the largest and fastest communication network, for its potential to act as a means of activism and change is laughable. This belief is in part why the left is losing. Coupled with this moral obsession to be pure by not saying bad words.
Your argument has nothing to offer to justify being rhetorically ineffective. It only provides straw men, ad hominem statements, and blatant lies. Nothing your argument has offered will do anything to stem the tied of far-right propaganda online that is going to get so many people killed. On the ground action is of course still a necessary component of resisting fascism, but the far-right will run circles around us on the left if we do not take the internet seriously.