• Malix@sopuli.xyz
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    5 hours ago

    the penguin migration was going just fine, until nvidia 570.124.04 dropped, which is when the misery started. :|

    Got to check if I can roll back to earlier version.

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      Linux is super reliable, and unless you use cutting edge distro, it’s pretty rare than anything breaks. Even Fedora is pretty stable from experience

      The only true problems I ever had (and still has), were with Nvidia. And switching distros ain’t saving you. Linux mint? Breaks on suspend. Nobara? Memory leak. Trying newer versions to see if it fixes it? Where’s my bootloader…

      I do understand that laptop RTX 3070 are not common, but still. I just want it to work, and have cuda on it. Is that too much to ask?

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        unless you use cutting edge distro

        yea well, “arch btw”. Haven’t had issues really, been running it for years on other systems but my gaming pc with nvidia is the only one with issues… because of course it does. :D

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          Never had an issue with Nvidia. But then I’m using an Ubuntu distro because I just want my computer to work and I don’t care about bleeding edge / rolling distros.

          And I will move to Wayland in a few years when all the issues are sorted out, which I suspect is part of people’s problems.

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          Of course. Mileage may vary. On some systems it may always work, on others it’s “what’s broken this week”.

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        Linux is super reliable

        It depends on what you want to do with it, which version of which component you run and a couple of other things. In my own experience, if you want a “super reliable” system, get OpenBSD. Linux has a severe lack of QA, mainly because of its decoupled nature.

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      This is the main barrier for me (other one is migrating a janky access database). I really don’t want to spend my 2 hours free time an evening troubleshooting Nvidia driver issues (4800S series).

      Anyone with this card have an experience to share?

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        rtx3090, 5800x3d, wayland, sddm, kde:

        • whole system freezes on boot (with somewhat garbled display) when display manager starts (sddm) - IF >1 displays are plugged in/powered on.
        • no issues if sddm starts with one display, and THEN powering up second. - But this has to be done while in sddm, before logging in.
        • whole system can (with high chance) freeze again on desktop if at any point a screens are connected/disconnected
        • krunner works exactly once, after that it logs errors in journal that some display reference is wrong (the exact wording escapes me atm)

        all these things were fine with 570.86.something - the previous version, which apparently was beta.

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          I see. Then it’s possible that it doesn’t affect older cards. I have GTX 1660Ti and haven’t seen a problem, yet. However I do remember I had to downgrade Nvidia (on tty) a couple years back because it borked my system completely.

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            Entirely possible, dunno. And not like a 3090 is that new anymore either.

            Basically all of the issues mentioned above have been mentioned in various threads over at nvidia’s forums, etc. So they’re not unknown, but kinda wild a released driver has all of these issues whereas the previous beta was seemingly unaffected - feels like someone was bit too triggerhappy to release an untested version to production.

            It’d be nice if I could just drop the nvidia card and swap to amdgpu but… that’d require “a bit” of money so I could maintain same (or better) level of performance - and atm I just don’t want to spend that kind of money. :/

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              Yeah, it’s possible. This is not the first time they did this, probably won’t be the last. Though they solve the issues relatively faster comparing to years ago. That’s something.

              It’d be nice if I could just drop the nvidia card and swap to amdgpu but… that’d require “a bit” of money

              I’m in the same boat but I’ll most likely use this card until it’s dead or really old. I cannot imagine how the people think about that email they got from Microsoft.