The democrats didn’t do anything wrong! Who could have known doing nothing to help your constituents and also facilitating genocide is unpopular?
If only there was some historical precedent to tell us whether trying to be the “moderate, reasonable, competent republicans” will get republicans to vote for you or if it just lowers turnout.
Pretty much everyone you are talking to voted Democrat. You know who didn’t? People whose families were murdered by US munitions.
You know who also didn’t? The mythical anti-trump Republican voters who the Biden/Kamala campaign exclusively tried to win over.
Maybe instead of getting mad at people calling out the Democrats losing strategy you should get mad at Republicans who are destroying everything and the feckless Democrats who learned nothing from this last election.
Statistically at least some of us here didn’t, and that’s extra true for Lemmy in general. Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 didn’t show up in 2024. Trump’s numbers hardly changed at all, but the former DNC voters stayed home in absolutely massive numbers.
I’m sure some of them regret it, but depicting the only party that gives any fucks about them being hung by their necks is probably not the way to go about fixing this.
Yeah, my reply was too brief & misunderstandable, so let me 'splain.
We need to stop deluding ourselves into thinking there’s a political solution to what Trump, Musk, and the Republicans are doing. There’s not.
Most Americans have been thoroughly misinformed and won’t care about the destruction of democracy until the repercussions smack them personally in the face, but by then the coup will be completed. Dems in Congress will not spontaneously evolve spines. I’m out there picketing, but only for my conscience and mental health, not because I imagine the fascists will hear us and yield. They won’t.
Politics as usual is finished in America. We will be left with whatever rights Trump & Musk decide we should have, which won’t be much and won’t be up for ‘debate’. The current dismantling of America will lead to violence, which I neither want nor call for, and which I’m too old, weak, and generally chickenshit to participate in. The violence is going to happen, though, with the police, the military, and the un-regulated militia against we the people who hope for freedom, and we will lose. After that, reconstructing democracy in America will take generations of struggle and bloodshed.
It’s moot and silly to talk of ‘fixing this’ via elections or reforming the Democratic Party. That ship has sailed and sunk. America, 1776-2025, RIP.
Don’t get me wrong, I supported and voted for the Democrats. But currently? They seem like a bunch of pussies letting the Republican party cuck them of our democratic nation because they’re unwilling to be more ruthless. Uncivility and the breaking of precedent by the Republicans, should be met and pursued by with absolute cold efficiency and opportunism by the current Democratic party, in order to protect us, their constituents. They aren’t doing that though, and seem to even be capitulating and bending the knee to Republicans.
Don’t get me wrong, I supported and voted for the Democrats. But currently? They seem like a bunch of pussies letting the Republican party cuck them of our democratic nation because they’re unwilling to be more ruthless.
Let’s be clear here: they were like that before we voted for them, too. But we held our noses and did it anyway, because – unlike the “genocide Joe” concern trolls – we both understood what was at stake and weren’t covertly supporting it.
unlike the “genocide Joe” concern trolls – we both understood what was at stake and weren’t covertly supporting it.
That is a major accusation, you think I covertly support a genocide?
What the fuck are you smoking?
Why the hell would I want mass amounts of innocent people to get slaughtered?
Provide evidence of your accusation or stop making it immediately and indefinitely until you find actual evidence. I consider someone casually representing my position or others with similar views as being pro-genocide as a serious, reportable behavior on lemmy. Especially since it has become a pattern.
If you weren’t telling people not to vote for Harris, I wasn’t talking about you.
Otherwise, if you were telling people to vote third-party or not at all even though you damn well knew it would result in Trump, then yeah, you supported genocide! You refused to minimize harm and that makes you guilty, end of. Go fucking report yourself instead of getting butthurt at me for confronting you with the truth of your evil.
The democrats didn’t do anything wrong! Who could have known doing nothing to help your constituents and also facilitating genocide is unpopular?
If only there was some historical precedent to tell us whether trying to be the “moderate, reasonable, competent republicans” will get republicans to vote for you or if it just lowers turnout.
Did not voting Democrat work?
Pretty much everyone you are talking to voted Democrat. You know who didn’t? People whose families were murdered by US munitions.
You know who also didn’t? The mythical anti-trump Republican voters who the Biden/Kamala campaign exclusively tried to win over.
Maybe instead of getting mad at people calling out the Democrats losing strategy you should get mad at Republicans who are destroying everything and the feckless Democrats who learned nothing from this last election.
Statistically at least some of us here didn’t, and that’s extra true for Lemmy in general. Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 didn’t show up in 2024. Trump’s numbers hardly changed at all, but the former DNC voters stayed home in absolutely massive numbers.
I’m sure some of them regret it, but depicting the only party that gives any fucks about them being hung by their necks is probably not the way to go about fixing this.
There will be no ‘fixing this’.
Lol, you sound like you’re on the MAGA’s side.
Yeah, my reply was too brief & misunderstandable, so let me 'splain.
We need to stop deluding ourselves into thinking there’s a political solution to what Trump, Musk, and the Republicans are doing. There’s not.
Most Americans have been thoroughly misinformed and won’t care about the destruction of democracy until the repercussions smack them personally in the face, but by then the coup will be completed. Dems in Congress will not spontaneously evolve spines. I’m out there picketing, but only for my conscience and mental health, not because I imagine the fascists will hear us and yield. They won’t.
Politics as usual is finished in America. We will be left with whatever rights Trump & Musk decide we should have, which won’t be much and won’t be up for ‘debate’. The current dismantling of America will lead to violence, which I neither want nor call for, and which I’m too old, weak, and generally chickenshit to participate in. The violence is going to happen, though, with the police, the military, and the un-regulated militia against we the people who hope for freedom, and we will lose. After that, reconstructing democracy in America will take generations of struggle and bloodshed.
It’s moot and silly to talk of ‘fixing this’ via elections or reforming the Democratic Party. That ship has sailed and sunk. America, 1776-2025, RIP.
Lol I understood you the first time. You want to tear down the government. Just like MAGA.
Upvoted for feckless. I love that word in general, and it’s perfect attached to Democrats.
Exhibit A. Congratulations!
Don’t get me wrong, I supported and voted for the Democrats. But currently? They seem like a bunch of pussies letting the Republican party cuck them of our democratic nation because they’re unwilling to be more ruthless. Uncivility and the breaking of precedent by the Republicans, should be met and pursued by with absolute cold efficiency and opportunism by the current Democratic party, in order to protect us, their constituents. They aren’t doing that though, and seem to even be capitulating and bending the knee to Republicans.
Let’s be clear here: they were like that before we voted for them, too. But we held our noses and did it anyway, because – unlike the “genocide Joe” concern trolls – we both understood what was at stake and weren’t covertly supporting it.
That is a major accusation, you think I covertly support a genocide?
What the fuck are you smoking?
Why the hell would I want mass amounts of innocent people to get slaughtered?
Provide evidence of your accusation or stop making it immediately and indefinitely until you find actual evidence. I consider someone casually representing my position or others with similar views as being pro-genocide as a serious, reportable behavior on lemmy. Especially since it has become a pattern.
I do not condone genocide, of anybody, period.
If you weren’t telling people not to vote for Harris, I wasn’t talking about you.
Otherwise, if you were telling people to vote third-party or not at all even though you damn well knew it would result in Trump, then yeah, you supported genocide! You refused to minimize harm and that makes you guilty, end of. Go fucking report yourself instead of getting butthurt at me for confronting you with the truth of your evil.