Its not a good thing but I dont think it will really gaslight the public. The average persons understanding of if their countries economy is doing well or not boils down to “do i feel richer or poorer than last election?”
Despite what some might think of bidenomics, which showed by most traditional metrics that the US economy was improving and recovering well from the pandemic, people still felt the economy was doing poorly because they felt poor… Because a lot of people now are poorer than previous generations. Which of course those tradtitional metrics dont really take into account that people get paid fuck all now, but my point is just that the official numbers dont mean a lot to the average voter.
Even when people are objectively better off, if they’re told they’re not, they believe it.
Just like crime statistics. Crime keeps going down, but people perceive it’s always going up because that’s what the media keeps telling them.
Cannot wait for the bothsiderists to claim how donvict doing things to actively crash the economy and then gaslight about it is equivalent to how terrible it was for Biden/Kamala to speak about an economy that was “the envy of the world”.
With some people, if they didn’t have dual standards, they’d have no standards at all.
Trump doesnt need to manipulate much. I live in deep red country. They are upset that fox has “completely changed” and they want to go to newsmax instead.
They are soooo fucking close to getting it. But the propaganda seed has already been planted.
That is not the insight you think it is. Newsmax is the successor to Fox. What you’re saying is they want to bury their heads even deeper into the fascist propaganda machine.
Dude just wiped billions of the economy, and he still thinks he’s going to be alive next year. Honestly, Russia got what they needed out of him. Just just a liability for them at this point
Trillions. There’s an article that hit my feed that shows that the NYSE and DJ indexes have lost 5 trillion dollars in value in the last 3 weeks.
People are still gonna notice that they can’t afford groceries.
Are they though? “Idiot Biden, sleepy Joe as they say, left us a terrible economy, terrible, this is the worst economy we’ve ever seen. Poor America. But I have very bright minds, the smartest minds, hard at work on it. To fix the economy, we’re gonna make it all better.”
trumpers can blame biden all they want. You can’t deny an empty belly, and if the president is saying everything is great while the evidence to the contrary is literally visceral, that’s not gonna work for long. Just look at how well doing that exact thing worked out for biden and harris.
I suspect that trump will try it anyway and once it fails, he’ll pick the next entry on the “then they came for” list and start blaming them.
You can’t deny an empty belly
Oh yeah, just watch. They will.
But want the economy doing good under Biden? Sure you had inflation but at a much lower scale then most of the world. I don’t get why you think it was bad? Or am I missing something.
I am so refreshed being here. I hate Trump. But bidens magical economy was not reality, myself and many of my circle all in very high demand sectors spent longer unemployed than any other time in history. People were hungry and unable to pay bills. Who was benefitting from his economy? Only the ultra wealthy. I just don’t see it. And I feel gaslit when people say bidens economy was so good. Trumps is worse of course but we haven’t even reached a minimum.
Most people are too stupid to realize that the economy is like a massive cargo ship, it was on a course set by Trump when Biden got elected, and it took nearly 4 years for Biden to change course. Now that’s just the first step. You have to then wait for the ship to get out of the storm and reach it’s destination, which is where the disconnect lays. We’re all still seeing the storm and feeling the rain, and the ship bobbing in huge waves, and Biden was telling us that everything was getting better. He wasn’t wrong People just don’t realize how long it takes to get out of the storm even after the course has been corrected.
Date Rape Donny on the other hand is steering us straight into the storm, while telling us it doesn’t exist
For changes in the economy like those, you really need a two term president: one term to lay the groundwork and the second to “stay the course” to reap the benefits.
This is also where Harris’ response of not wanting to change anything is the best choice. She would have seen the benefits and received credit for Biden’s groundwork.
Its difficult to get this across, especially since so many voters don’t have the respective or patience to look beyond immediate needs
Depends on how you define the economy. The economy won’t be good in the eyes of the average person until there has been a huge redistribution of wealth back to lower classes.
And that won’t happen under an oligarchy, because Trickle Down economics is a lie.
Horse and Sparrow.
For what it’s worth, you can’t tell people their paychecks are getting bigger when they aren’t. Biden presided over a “great economy” but wages stagnated and buying power decreased. Trump is going to Strangelove-ride this economy into a pit so deep it’ll be hard to convince people that everything is roses.
When all the additional money is going to the billionaires, it’s hard to see that economic improvement.
Yet this is all so politically driven.
For example, there were many minimum wage hikes during Biden’s term, lifting the lowest wages. At the state level. In blue states. Politicians in the states that needed this most blocked both federal increases and those for their own states. How are those politicians not the ones getting the blame?
As another example, legislation signed by Biden resulted in many additional business benefits in factories and trades. This would have created many new jobs, especially in some of the most low wage parts of the country. But not until the factories are built. And political changes where the government won’t follow through with its commitments means many of these will no longer be built. Why isn’t the administration stopping these new jobs getting the blame?
A huge difference between the left and the right is that the left respects the citizens and gives them the benefit of the doubt on how much they understand and consider. The right doesn’t overestimate them and accurately reckons and takes full advantage of their reactive, unanalytical character.
It’ll work for a while on some people, but yeah, eventually it’ll come crashing all down, especially if companies start using the fake figures into their future planning.
I’m pretty sure this is also why they want to annex Canada, Greenland, and Panama (maybe Mexico if they think they can get away with it). It’s the exact same strategy the Nazis used, and I’m not invoking that lightly: when their economy was absolute dogshit, the Nazis made it look WAY better by A) going to a war footing and B) invading other countries and stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down (then stealing everything else, including the nails.)
I still don’t believe it’s anything more than a distraction from more important issues, although maybe I’m naive.
I’m more worried about things like an article I just read where they disbanded a group dedicated to ensuring statistics are as accurate as possible, while also redefining how GDP is measured so they can hide the impact of government cuts on the economy
Invading Canada doesn’t seem like it can be real. Manipulating facts and newspeak to lie to the population is all too real and all too much an enabler for pretty much everything else. The first thing a tyrant needs to do is control what the populace thinks it knows
It is distraction. Russia doesn’t gain anything from getting Moscow burned to the ground. The number of U.S. citizens that want to shoot Canadian citizens is low. And the only way that 31 countries (NATO) don’t attack the U.S. in defense of Canada is if they think Russia is a big enough threat to keep them from coming. Ukraine has proved Russia is not. Russia would lose all the ground gained in Ukraine soon as Poland and Germany started air raids on Russia. Poland would have no issue burning Moscow to the ground without ever setting boots in Russia. There is no benefits to any of it. The only benefit is to Trump where he would be able to seize war time powers. In the mean time more than half of America would be livid with the U.S. government getting us sucked into WW3 and be trying to not only oust the current government but actively sabotaging factories making drones or any wartime gear. 2/3s of this country would likely WANT us to lose the war so we could fix our government and get back to relative peace. Shit, NYC itself would likely blow up the Statue of Liberty.
Nothing good would come from WW3, and that’s what it would bring.
