cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501

What European email services do you use?

Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.

I have switched from Google’s Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼

Originally posted on Reddit

    • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
      492·
      2 days ago

      Here’s the actual tweet so you can see it for yourself

      He did praise Trump and platform him, then he praised the Republican party saying they are the party of “the little guys” (small business), which is just flat out wrong. He does not acknowledge that there are an abundance of things Trump is doing that is fucking awful and disgusting. At best it’s an extremely tone-deaf tweet.

      What that comment does is paint Trump and the Republican party in a very good light and ignores other things they do that are terrible, illegal, and much more important than a single cherry-picked action. That’s effectively an endorsement (i.e. ass-kissing) without saying it in exact words.

      Also, it’s so very obvious that anyone associated with Trump absolutely needs to abide by Trump’s every whim or else he will replace you. So, the point he was trying to make is entirely moot in the first place.

      There is just no way to praise Trump or the Republican party without showing your ignorance or alignment with them. Just like you can’t just have a little bit of shit in your food. Once you’ve got even a little bit of shit in your food, then you’ve got shit-food. Or, in this case, a Trump-shit stained CEO’s mouth.

      • rooroo@feddit.org
        182·
        2 days ago

        It’s even worse than I thought tbh. Half a year ago I considered a move to Proton, now I’m glad I didn’t.

          • CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 hour ago

            I’m a big fan of tuta if you just need mail for the other services mullvad’s still pretty good if you’re not doing torrenting/need port forwarding for other reasons. Bitwarden is amazingm

        • Comtief@lemm.ee
          56·
          23 hours ago

          I did move to proton after hearing all this stuff, seems overblown and out of context. Tone deaf of the CEO to make such a tweet, sure, but he has been a long time supporter of liberals and not a fan of Trump.

          • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 hours ago

            What context? There’s no other context for this tweet.

            The way I see it is that he only cares about how his business and his own ideologies benefit. As long as he gets what he wants, that’s what matters. Not everything else that’s absolutely horrendous that Trump and the Republican party are doing, and things that show that you can’t trust anything they do even if it may seem like a good thing on its face.

            At best, tone-deaf, ignorant, and somewhat disrespectful to the people that are and will be suffering from Trump’s regime.

            That ain’t a CEO that I can trust. I’ll pass. You do what you want, but it’s certainly not overblown or missing context.

            • Comtief@lemm.ee
              2·
              1 hour ago

              I don’t blame you for drawing these conclusions, for me what I’ve read this far is not convincing enough to stop using Proton. It makes me weary, yes, but it’s not so black and white for me after I read more about it. I’d still take proton over Gmail any day and the private drive thing is nice too, as long as he won’t go full pro-Trump, I’m fine with Proton. I mean, he is not even wrong that democrats are captured by big tech, he just seems naive to think that Republicans are not actually worse. Also his donating pattern is similar to George Soros, so there is that.

              • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                25 minutes ago

                I gotcha. Though “as long as he won’t go full pro-Trump” seems a bit close for comfort. Maybe he is and he’s just toning it down publicly.

                Overall, though, I’d rather see people suggesting other options first. Then tossing in Proton as an option along with the context of that tweet showing that he’s not exactly reliable and could be not far off from full MAGA.

            • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 hours ago

              False equivalence. Bernie has more than enough history of outlining his views on Trump. Yen doesn’t have that kind of history, so the tweet reads as an endorsement overall. The fact he’s stating that ‘Republicans are the party for small businesses’ in itself shows how absolutely ignorant he is and willing to drink their bullshit.

              That’s enough for me to see how he stands. He may not be fully supportive of Trump and the Republicans, but he’s shown himself to be beyond the threshold that I am willing to tolerate.

      • Comtief@lemm.ee
        46·
        23 hours ago

        https://archive.ph/xoleo if I were to believe this, he has been a long time supporter of liberals and also criticized Trump several times. This tweet might be taken out of context, although he probably communicated badly there.