• LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe
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    1 day ago

    Storm is right. Rogueā€™s powers arenā€™t a disease. Rogue canā€™t control her powers because of mental health issues. The solution is going to therapy, not taking away her powers.

    Imagine you have Touretteā€™s and canā€™t stop swearing. Is the cure to Touretteā€™s to cut your larynx out? No! But thatā€™s effectively what Rogue is asking for in this scene.

    Storm is a little bit wrong. There is something wrong with Rogue. But itā€™s not that sheā€™s a mutant. Stormā€™s right about that.

    Iā€™m not an expert on the psychotherapy of mutants, but in most superhero media (eg Frozen), you have to accept your powers in order to control them. Storm is helping Rogue. Rogue needs to accept that her powers are part of her before sheā€™ll be able to control them

    Also, everyone should go listen to The Bright Sessions. Itā€™s a podcast about a psychologist for people with superpowers.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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      19 hours ago

      counterpoint: maybe she wouldnā€™t fucking have mental health issues if she didnā€™t posses the power to kill people by touch? just a thought

      youā€™re literally just repeating stormā€™s flawed argument, itā€™s real easy to say ā€œoh but your power isnā€™t badā€ when youā€™re not the one unable to touch people without killing them.

      Why should people be defined by things like that? shouldnā€™t they be free to ā€œcureā€ it if they want?
      People do this same thing with all kinds of disabilities, especially stuff like autism/ADHD. ā€œautism is your super powerā€ very easy to say and it sounds nice, but you donā€™t get to be the arbiter of whatā€™s part of peopleā€™s identity. If someone wants to ā€œcureā€ a thing you donā€™t think is bad, tough shit! You donā€™t get a say in it.

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        9 hours ago

        Iā€™m a transwoman, Iā€™ve definitely heard people tell me I donā€™t need to transition I can just ā€œBe gay and wear dresses all I wantā€

        Iā€™m not a drag queen or a ladyboy, Iā€™m a woman who used to be trapped in a manā€™s body. And yes I was a woman trapped in a manā€™s body

        ā€œOh no you were always a girl.ā€

        No, if I was always a girl then Iā€™d have never had a problem.

        I like the mentality of well wishers but Toxic Positivity sucks.

    • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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      19 hours ago

      Do you fucking hear yourself? What a goofy thing to say. Her touch kills people. Itā€™s not a minor inconvenience. Mutants deserve medical autonomy to remove their powers if they wish. The cure was pretty magical too. In the movie it wasnā€™t akin to mutilation at all. Besides, if Cyclops wanted to have his eyes medically removed because he believed theyā€™re just too dangerous, who are we to judge and refuse? Itā€™s none of our business.

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      21 hours ago

      If Iā€™m born with a 6th finger thereā€™s not necessarily anything wrong with that but at the same time if I want it amputated that should be my choice and my right.

      Accepting yourself is preferable but I think itā€™s just as valid to make choices about your own life if you can. Whether itā€™s a disease or not isnā€™t the issue.

      • LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe
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        18 hours ago

        Rogue isnā€™t making an informed decision. Sheā€™s just trauma reacting. If she were my patient, I wouldnā€™t sign off on a superpowerectomy until sheā€™s made a proper effort to come to terms with her power and control it. Right now, sheā€™s not fully of sound mind with regards to her power. She needs therapy before she can fully understand the choice she wants to make.