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      All I meant by “the left” was EVERYBODY who is not MAGA.

      And we can make them care about being called Traitors when we make it clear that it isn’t hyperbole, it isnt rhetoric, it isnt partisan gamesmanship, it means we think they are true criminal Traitors to America, and will be called to account for their Sedition. The leadership, anyone who is elected, should absolutely be charged for their crimes. So should many street level MAGAs, like the J6 traitors, and anyone who gets violent between now and then. The rest should feel so uncomfortable that they want to leave America, and they can go live in Russia.

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          I’m not only caught up, I’ve been ahead of the curve for years. I’m a history grad, and I’ve been making the Nazi comparisons for years, because it was clear as day to me that they were following the Nazi playbook. Now it’s finally clear to everyone else, too.

          I don’t understand what your issue is. We are actually on the same side, but your are somehow fixated on the word Left. Calm down.

          ALL MAGAs are Traitors to America and the Constitution, and they should have that label tattooed on their foreheads.

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            The constitution has mostly allowed for this to happen unimpeded. We need something new, evidence based and up to date for this absolutely new paradigm we find ourselves in, that meets as many of the needs of every person who lives here as possible.

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              What are you talking about? The entire thread is about America, and the new regime violating the Constitution. That’s what this thread is about, that’s why the “fascination.”

              Americans care about the Constitution because its guided our nation since its founding, and it is considered sacrosanct. The new administration is simply ignoring it, and doing whatever they want, which is far too close to the Nazi playbook for comfort. Not only are Americans upset about it, the entire world should be upset about it.

              And again, that focus on the word Left, which I seldom use, and almost didn’t in this case. All I meant by the word Left was anyone who isn’t MAGA, because that’s how MAGA sees the world. If you aren’t MAGA, you are on “The Left.”

              There’s a special congressional election near me, and the candidates include a rare non-MAGA candidate. The opposition attack ads are painting him as a “Liberal” and “RINO,” when he is just as conservative as any Republican, he’s just anti-HitlerPig.

              I understand that Left means something different in Europe, but this thread is about American politics, so I used the word Left in an American political context. It’s weird that there is so much focus on a single word, instead of my actual message.

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                  I honestly don’t understand what you are talking about. You obviously dont understand what the Constitution is, and how important it is to America. It is the American governmental rulebook, literally the Government itself, and EVERY elected official takes an oath similar to this one:

                  “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

                  See that part about defending the CONSTITUTION “against all enemies, foreign and domestic?” Defending the Constitution, not America, is literally the primary responsibility of all elected officials. That should illustrate how important it is to all Americans, and why it is alarming when an administration chooses to ignore it, as well as the judges, courts and legal decisions that service the Constitution. They are literally tossing aside the rule book that has defined America, and inspired the constitutions of hundreds of governments, for the last (nearly) 250 years, in favor of an new, undefined, authoritarian government that exists for the benefit of the wealthy.

                  Beyond that, if you still don’t get it, you are simply being obtuse, and not worth further clarification.

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                HitlerPig

                I have to ask, are you literally a child?

                It’s weird that there is so much focus on a single word

                I guarantee you that American leftists are not going to like the idea of being thrown in jail for treason because they don’t consider the constitution “sacrosanct”.

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                  HitlerPig is the name that the younger staffers in the Biden White House called him. I find it simultaneously insulting, humorous, and accurate. HitlerPig loves to give insulting names to others, so he should be happy to have one of his own. I dont need your permission or approval to use it, and i will continue to alternate between HitlerPig and Agent Krasnov, the designation he was given by his Soviet KGB handlers when they turned him during his visit to Moscow in 1987.

                  Again with obsession with the word “Left.” In America, it only means “Not Right.” It does not have the levels of nuance that it has in Europe and other places.

                  In America, even “The Left” holds our Constitution sacrosanct, because it is intended to protect their interests as much as those they oppose. The Constitution is the reason any sort of opposing political philosophy or lifestyle is allowed to exist, and even extremists of both sides understand this on a fundamental level. The difference is the Right wants to limit the Constitution protection for anyone but themselves, while the Left is willing to allow it to protect all viewpoints.

                  “The Left” you describe, those who would oppose even the Constitution, are not “The Left,” they are anarchists, they are a very tiny sliver of American society. Anarchy is more of a European concept than an American one. It is very rarely discussed, or even mentioned in America. It effectively does not exist here.

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            ALL MAGAs are Traitors to America and the Constitution, and they should have that label tattooed on their foreheads.

            Least fascist blueMAGA cultist.

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        Yes, I’m sure you’ll have a not of luck defeating fascism by declaring “having the wrong politics” to be legally treasonous

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          Some political philosphies need to be destroyed. Nazism is one of them. Germany was able to purge Nazism from their nation, and survive as a productive nation of the world, with the help of the United States and the Nuremburg Trials, and we will have to be courageous enough as a nation to do the same thing.

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            Ok, but you’re not talking about purging Nazism, you’re talking about arresting your political enemies for “treason”.

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              MAGA is just re-branded Nazism, they are the exact same thing. MAGA is nothing more than a highly financed criminal enterprise, and should be illegal. They should be treated exactly the same as any violent street gang, or the Mafia.

              I do not advocate locking people up for their political affiliations, but they should be locked up for their actual crimes, and the lists of HitlerPig’s crimes, and those of his family and henchmen are long. Planning, leading, promoting, rallying, and launching an Insurrection is a CRIME, and all those involved should be held to account for it. The False Electors Plot was a crime, and all involved should be hrld to account for it. Stealing hundreds of classified documents is a crime, and all those involved should be held to account for it.

              There are many more crimes that we all saw with our own eyes, so many that HitlerPig would spend the rest of his life shuttling between his prison cell and courtrooms. That would be fine with me, but it would probably be better for America if he just gets convicted of enough of his crimes to put him away until his death, with no access to any media.

              I don’t want anyone to go to prison for their politics, just their crimes. Dont you think criminals should be held accountable for their crimes? If a Democrats stole hundreds of classified documents, would you forgive them and vote for them?

              Why are MAGAs so soft on crime?