• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    10 hours ago

    You can’t just pray progress into existence

    Except there was actual progress under Carter, Clinton, and Obama. It wasn’t huge, but it was progress. You choosing to ignore it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

    You’re the one who has gone faith based. You can’t give me one actual fact to make me think the USA is anywhere near a Socialist revolution.

    And I can point to Blackwater and the other mercenary companies to show that if the Revolution comes, it will be instantly subverted.

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      10 hours ago

      There was decay under all of those, though. The US has been getting worse, using a bucket on a sinking tanker will not fix the underlying problems, we need a solution, not another bucket.

      As for revolution, it is neither easy nor impossible, but rather difficult and possible. Studying revolution proves this consistently true.

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        9 hours ago

        You keep repeating the same thing over and over.

        People should not have any health insurance at all until the Revolution comes and makes it perfect.

        People should accept tanspeople getting killed until the Revolution.

        We shouldn’t do anything to improve anything until the revolution.

        Like I said, you’re the best friend the fascists ever had.

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          8 hours ago

          Imagine if you actually responded to what Cowbee says, rather than making up wild strawmen to put in his mouth

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          9 hours ago

          See, that’s not what I said, though. I can say that it would be great to have universal healthcare, but that we cannot “pray it into existence,” and therefore the question of how we get there is important. Critically, this has been a salient topic for decades, and yet the Democrats have not implemented it, nor does it seem like they would if they had the majority.

          Just as important as the ideas themselves is the path to implementing them.

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            9 hours ago

            See, that’s not what I said, though. I can say that it would be great to have universal healthcare, but that we cannot “pray it into existence,”

            lol! Talk to the 45 million people who are getting Obamacare.

            Even Obama called the ACA a ‘starter house’ but if we listened to you those folks wouldn’t have anything.

            Gay rights is another example of progress that was made without your Revolution.

            Good bye

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              9 hours ago

              The ACA was a concession, and is in danger of being whisked away. Same with gay rights. Electoralist strategies are subject to the whims of Capital, not the people.

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                7 hours ago

                Thank you for proving my point. We should be working on preserving the gains we’ve made instead of focusing on a pie in the sky future.

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                  7 hours ago

                  Focus as hard as you want to, you won’t be able to make a difference on what gets repealed or enacted with your strategy, hence my point.

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                    6 hours ago

                    You’re hilarious.

                    The ACA never happened, the New Deal never happened, nothing matters unless you decide it’s worthy.

                    You’ve gone from mildly amusing to shrilly repetitive. Can’t waste more time on you. Go outside and touch the grass.