This came up in my health care forum.
Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.
This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.
Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.
This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.
It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.
I have met and hung out with a staggering variety of monsters. so much so I might be doxxing myself if I really described the breadth. If you can think of a kind of monster that exists, I have probably met them. I might even have known one well.
I have never met anyone who can reach quite the degree of sadist or control freak as a psychiatrist. Psychopaths aren’t as willing to lie spontaneously and throw people away. future cult leaders aren’t as quick on the self justification trigger. I genuinely believe sydney gottlieb was one of the less malignant assholes that profession has ever produced.
which is a shame, because the pharmacology of the mind is something I’m deeply interested in. there’s cool fucking science there, and we will never see it done.
This reads like low-key Scientology propaganda.
I have trouble telling the part sometimes, to be honest. I guess scientologists tend to be better actors and worse scifi authors than psychiatrists, but how often does that come up when you’re meeting someone?
Scientologists despise psychiatry. To like the point of extremism.
okay, yes aware, but, again, from where I’m sitting, the main differences I see are that scientologists are much better actors on average, and psychiatrists are much better scifi writers on average. this wouldn’t be the first time two nearly identical groups have been at each other’s throats; have you heard of communists?
Nearly identical? One is a cult, and one is a legitimate science.
uh huh. I haven’t seen the legitimate science. I’ve seen cult shit, cult dynamics, and cult behavior towards kidnapped people, including myself. I don’t really trust those people to do objective science. I used to own a copy of the DSM that described homosexuality as an illness. do you want to know how it was treated? being trans is still a mental illness. so forgive my skepticism.
in fact, my parents were in a cult for a few years when I was little. they were creepy as hell and super authoritarian, but they were much nicer when they kidnapped me, never raped me, and didn’t go nearly as hard on the torture.
OH psychiatry is also covered by insurance sometimes briefly. so i guess that’s another difference.
Psychiatrists help millions of people every day by providing antidepressants, ADHD medication, mood stabilizers, anti-psychotics, anxiolytics, etc.
We have countless peer reviewed studies with an amount of raw data that is borderline unfathomable, regarding the safety and efficacy of these medications. People’s lives are made significantly better because of psychiatry. They often literally save people from suicide.
Either you’ve got a lot to learn about how science and medicine works, or you’re being extremely disingenuous.
peer reviewed. and who are the peers of psychiatrists? are they psychiatrists? because, again, I have met psychiatrists. they are very enthusiastic about authority, and not enthusiastic about being questioned. Doctors are human, they echo the shitty cultures they’re in, of course. in my experience psychiatrists are the worst about this. they’re generally more authoritarian and more hostile than any other field. my disposition towards them is shaped by my interactions with them. I do not trust psychiatrists to be more scientific or less likely to black bag me more than I trust a scientologist to do the same, and I’m a queer who lives in socal.
why do people outside the developed world, with some of the most severe mental illnesses, tend to have better outcomes with conditions like schizophrenia even without these medications available? I do not think psychiatrists genuinely help people. It feels like capitalism, where they take everything and give you back some table scraps.
like I said; the pharmacology of the human brain is EXTREMELY interesting to me, and the disposition of psychiatrists means I will never get to see it properly fucking studied. this makes me angry and sad.