This came up in my health care forum.
Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.
This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.
Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.
This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.
It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.
Like red flag laws, but for the other side.
The other side?
Red flag laws were geared more towards conservatives, this TDS bill would be geared more towards liberals.
How are laws stating “If you’ve beaten your spouse, you cannot own guns” geared towards conservatives? Or, is that a slip of some sort?
I don’t remember that part of it.
So, the only possible sane position is to support everything Trump does?
No. You don’t have to agree with everything Trump. This bill won’t pass anyway.
Assuming it passed, that’s what the bill said. Any disagreement with Trump is a clear sign of a mental disorder.
No, it does not say any disagreement with Trump. That alone would not qualify.
Don’t worry though, with walz as gov, it won’t pass.
No, it does not say any disagreement with Trump
It literally does. That’s how it defines “Trump Derangement Syndrome”.
But yes, Walz will veto it, thankfully.
Its only part of what defines it. Disagreeing alone would not qualify.
What’s the bill number? Is there a link to the text for a full read?
Psychiatric hospitals are also allowed to lie to you. You can go in voluntarily, and be upgraded to “involuntary” with no recourse.
Mental health techs will lie - cause problems? Guess what, your notes now say that you are “paranoid” and “hear voices.” You’re “paranoid” because a tech beat the shit out of you two hours ago - you don’t hear voices, but you are “crazy” so obviously lying.
Check what rights institutionalized people have in your state. I can tell you where I live, there are none.
LOL, the stuff of nightmares.
Quite literally in my case.
PTSD from “psychiatric care” is pretty difficult to deal with (and understudied. fascinating how PTSD only garners you empathy and understanding if you’re a combat rep, despite the fact that most with PTSD do have it from sexual abuse and possibly inpatient experiences - suicide rates skyrocket after involuntary commitment, but why do any form of investigation into something that might hurt profits?)
If you’re afraid of wasps, you aren’t expected to go ask a wasp how to deal with it. If, however, you experience severe abuse at the hands of mental health professionals and you live in an area where mental health care = the police, getting any form of help is pretty difficult.
Especially when they consider your gender identity and sexuality as manifestations of mental illness/further evidence that they don’t need to look into the tech beating the shit out of you.
I have met and hung out with a staggering variety of monsters. so much so I might be doxxing myself if I really described the breadth. If you can think of a kind of monster that exists, I have probably met them. I might even have known one well.
I have never met anyone who can reach quite the degree of sadist or control freak as a psychiatrist. Psychopaths aren’t as willing to lie spontaneously and throw people away. future cult leaders aren’t as quick on the self justification trigger. I genuinely believe sydney gottlieb was one of the less malignant assholes that profession has ever produced.
which is a shame, because the pharmacology of the mind is something I’m deeply interested in. there’s cool fucking science there, and we will never see it done.
This reads like low-key Scientology propaganda.
I have trouble telling the part sometimes, to be honest. I guess scientologists tend to be better actors and worse scifi authors than psychiatrists, but how often does that come up when you’re meeting someone?
Scientologists despise psychiatry. To like the point of extremism.
okay, yes aware, but, again, from where I’m sitting, the main differences I see are that scientologists are much better actors on average, and psychiatrists are much better scifi writers on average. this wouldn’t be the first time two nearly identical groups have been at each other’s throats; have you heard of communists?
If you guys haven’t started rioting by now then I lack any empathy for you with what comes next.
I don’t know how to start a riot
This statement sums up modern Western society.
It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.
I think it is also important to note that it appears many of these officers are not wearing Level IV plates daily, and plainclothes cops may not be wearing any vest at all.