We very clearly haven’t already lost, otherwise the world would have ended. You and I wouldn’t be having this discussion, we’d be cobbling together what bits of food we could to survive.

Stop this mindset, it’s destructive and foolish - human beings have the capability of overcoming this. If people with this mindset were asked to dive into the cooling tanks at the Chernobyl incident - we, as a species, would actually be fucked.

Motherfucker hated me

😂😂 Extremely stubborn and prone to hate, sounds about right.

There was one dude who was an antisemitic rightwinger and seemed to start adopting softer stances like “You can’t really blame Jews for being bankers historically, its just kind of where they ended up being pushed into by other religious groups. It doesn’t make sense to hate them for that.” or something to that effect. And he even started mixing some left & right leaning econ together.

It’s definitely stuff like this that interests me. I think eventually - when the dust finally settles - people are going to have to start talking again. Not like we are now, communicating with the intent of making things better. I have hope that if someone like that can be convinced to have even a little empathy for the people they’ve been told to hate, then there’s hope for the rest of them (and us all). I’m sorry that I insulted you, I should not have implied you were in an echo chamber - nor that you were the type of person to respond without reading.

Interesting, how did everyone else’s perspectives change (or at least what you can remember)? I’m really curious, the more you share about it the less skeptical and more interested I become.

Dane-ish, although the pattern doesn’t really apply to the Brittish. Britons - Brittish - idk man language is hard

Ah, ok - that makes more sense. What was the goal? Simply a realm for debate?

So, and correct me if I’m misunderstanding you, but you - from a series of echo chambers - managed to come to the conclusion that those trapped in echo chambers can’t be convinced they’re wrong?

Am I reading that correctly?

You should probably… idk, actually read what they said.

Treating everyone you disagree with like they’re stupid is coping emotionally. Instead of taking the time to, idk discuss things with people they’ve written them off as dumb before they ever speak to them.

Yes, approaching discourse this way and believing that you can achieve any kind of middle ground is delusional.